Week 8 - Bills at Seahawks Game Week Thread

[BigAl2526]

5 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Bernard is the 7th smallest linebacker in the NFL at 224 pounds.  Two of the top 10 linebackers in the league are smaller than TB.  We do need a Bobby Wagner sized thumper on the 2nd line.

I'm hoping that Buffalo gets development in Ulofoshio like they have from Bernard and Williams.  He's got more body mass than most of Buffalo's other LBs and is still very athletic.  This team is really good at finding prospects with upside in the mid to later rounds and developing them.

[Simon]

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Baltimore's rush offense is more than doubling Seattle's in YPG. 6.2 YPC vs 4.5 YPC. Baltimore has a historically elite rushing offense. The rankings I found only goes back to 2003, but no other offense in that time frame has really come close to 6.2 YPC. Seattle on the other hand has an average rush offense. So I don't see the comparison. Without Metcalf out there we should be loading the box and daring them to throw outside. If an average run offense is able to impose their will on us when we barely have to respect the pass, we have much larger problems than a backup MLB.

 

I'm equally worried about passcatchers coming out of the backfield and repeatedly running away from overmatched LB's.

Having Taron Johnson back is a huge difference maker, but Williams and Spector are both liabilities against the RB/TE/Hback position.

[Richard Noggin]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I'm equally worried about passcatchers coming out of the backfield and repeatedly running away from overmatched LB's.

Having Taron Johnson back is a huge difference maker, but Williams and Spector are both liabilities against the RB/TE/Hback position.

 

Agreed. In some respects, it seems like McD would RATHER force an offense to beat us by matriculating down the field via checkdowns and dumpoffs and screens, often featuring RBs and TEs and even HBs. Get the QBs off their first reads downfield and deal with the consequences of longer developing plays, pass rush outcomes, etc. 

[Scott7975]

 

[NewEra]

24 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I'm hoping that Buffalo gets development in Ulofoshio like they have from Bernard and Williams.  He's got more body mass than most of Buffalo's other LBs and is still very athletic.  This team is really good at finding prospects with upside in the mid to later rounds and developing them.

Wouldn’t count on it.  He was plagued with injured throughout college too.   

[NickelCity]

My top two concerns are our defense in coverage with Williams and Spector, and their DLine/arrangements against our OLine.

[eball]

6 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Bernard is the 7th smallest linebacker in the NFL at 224 pounds.  Two of the top 10 linebackers in the league are smaller than TB.  We do need a Bobby Wagner sized thumper on the 2nd line.

 

6 hours ago, balln said:

Yea I mean he’s a little heavier than taron Johnson. He’s tiny. They look almost identical in the D huddle 

Exactly what about Bernard being stepped on by a lineman has anything to do with his size?

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I know-  that’s why I wrote the 2nd paragraph.  My point being- Spector in coverage is a terrible site and it could be a major problem if seattle identifies him as problem and exploits him.  If I’m Seattle, that’s what I would do

My b, missed that. Agreed, I don’t want to see Spector covering passes to Walker, even if he is on my fantasy team.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

9 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

 

Yeah, this is pretty much a nail in the coffin for them. Tyler Lockett is underrated, but has no business being your best offensive threat. They have a really good defense. I expect Woolen to lock down whoever they put him on, but I hear he’s super weak against the run. I hope the Bills don’t get cute and keep sticking to the run game. Don’t abandon it if u find yourself down a score. No dumb trick plays, no stupid pre-snap penalties and they should be fine. We win because we are simply better. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

9 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

Bernard alone is enough. 

No it’s not. Dorian Williams will get exposed. Look at what Baltimore just did to us. Why will it be any different next time? I’ve never heard someone say their team is better without their 1st team All-Pro LB. The guy is literally THE best at his position. Getting Milano back on D is like adding Jamar Chase to the offense. His only weakness is his durability. I’m 1000% positive we would’ve beat KC last year with him on the field. If sacrificing him the first half of the season means he will be healthy for the playoffs then I am all for it. 

On 10/24/2024 at 5:36 PM, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Holy hell.

 

The only thing missing from that report is Tom Brady's throwing shoulder.

Did Trubisky pull a Kevin Kolb ? What am I missing ??

[Magox]

10 hours ago, balln said:

Well that’s what you get with this coach’s system  prevent / read and react - and small “fast “ guys -  take so much extra punishment bc they just take and absorb these ball carriers and pass catchers. 

His foot was stepped on

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

My b, missed that. Agreed, I don’t want to see Spector covering passes to Walker, even if he is on my fantasy team.

Hahaha, same.  I have walker in 2 leagues

[Sierra Foothills]

14 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

Not clear yet.

 

Milano was really healthy before the recent breaks.

 

12 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Love Matt but he has *never* the definition of “really healthy” lol.

 

In fact, he has never played a full season in his entire career.

 

Edit: He has actually played 1 full season (out of 7).

 

 

Games missed by Milano by season:

 

Year	Missed	Games
2017	0	16
2018	3	16
2019	1	16
2020	6	16
2021	1	17
2022	2	17
2023	12	17
Total	25	114

 

Not including this season where he's missed all 7 games, Milano has missed 25 of 114 games or 21.9% of all games. If you eliminate the last two seasons where he's missed 12 of 24 games, he's at 13 of 97 missed for 13.4%... meaning that he usually misses more than 2 games per year.

 

14 hours ago, jkeerie said:

On OBL today, they were discussing that Baylon Spector is actually strongter versus the run than Bernard.

 

The problem is that it's a passing league and Spector is below average in that area. He's still young and can improve and obviously we're hoping that he and Dorian continue to progree without costing us any games.

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Maybe the Bills try and mess with bringing Cine up? I heard some things about him playing some LB. Maybe if Dorian Williams and Spector are getting torched or can’t get off blocks, you throw a hybrid S/LB out to help in coverage. Maybe you use more 4/3 and play Cine at the WLB. Let 54/42 eat up some blocks so the run doesn’t kill you and let Cine run free. Not ideal but I certainly don’t want to see another Ravens on skates game.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Maybe the Bills try and mess with bringing Cine up? I heard some things about him playing some LB. Maybe if Dorian Williams and Spector are getting torched or can’t get off blocks, you throw a hybrid S/LB out to help in coverage. Maybe you use more 4/3 and play Cine at the WLB. Let 54/42 eat up some blocks so the run doesn’t kill you and let Cine run free. Not ideal but I certainly don’t want to see another Ravens on skates game.

I’ve read here that Cine is not a LB.  I don’t think he’d be a fit vs Seattle especially without DK. More focus on getting walker the rock.  
 

It’ll be Spector imo.  If he shows that he can’t diagnose quickly enough, which seems to be his biggest issue, I hope they give Andreeson a series or two to see what he can do.

 

 

[Simon]

8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Agreed. In some respects, it seems like McD would RATHER force an offense to beat us by matriculating down the field via checkdowns and dumpoffs and screens, often featuring RBs and TEs and even HBs. Get the QBs off their first reads downfield and deal with the consequences of longer developing plays, pass rush outcomes, etc. 

 

It's not the world's worst philosophy.

But it is tougher to pull off when you have a couple guys who have issues with consistency.

You can usually hide one guy, but when you have to hide two or three then problems seem to pile up exponentially. 

[finn]

12 hours ago, NewEra said:

Put bernard out there vs KC in the playoffs and I think we win that game.  He’s a very good player.  His replacements are not.   

How about Bernard AND Milano? Two of the best linebackers in the league replaced by second-stringer and a guy on vacation with his family, and the game was still thisclose. 

 

And they say Allen is overrated? 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[TH3]

9 hours ago, eball said:

 

Exactly what about Bernard being stepped on by a lineman has anything to do with his size?

 

If a lineman stepped stepped on LT’s ankle the lineman got hurt!