Week 8 - Bills at Seahawks Game Week Thread

[BigAl2526]

5 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

I sort of agree here. I also insist the game was closer than the final score indicated and the Bills nearly clawed back in the game. 

 

There is a huge difference between getting your ass kicked like we did in the Bengals game, and Colts a few years ago...and that Ravens game. I'm mostly speaking about the eye test here. Bengals game we just got pushed back like chumps. 

 

I don't necessarily feel it's a bad matchup. Although Henry is a bad matchup for anyone. 

 

The Bills kill themselves when they resort to high risk down field throws with predictable repetitive fashion. 3 downs of "huck it deep" will get us in holes quick. Compound this be predictable run calls and plays essentially wasting a down. That's been most of the problem. Drive the field methodically using sidelines and whole field. Utilize intermittent play action and motion. 

 

Bills had a couple blown drives right before half where it was really a problem. That, IMO, is when we lost the game. 

 

Slow start is a catastrophic problem, and slow start versus the wrong team will kill us. 

 

This team has got to attack these bad starts on offense and D. 

Yeah, a habit of slow starts is very dangerous for a team with playoff aspirations.

[Mark Vader]

21 hours ago, Gregg said:

Sunday's uniforms. Seattle should go back to their classic look fulltime. They are so much better than the current uniforms

 

Absolutely!

 

Their blue jerseys, silver pants and silver helmets look great. I wouldn't be surprised if they switch back to them completely in another year or two.

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Absolutely!

 

Their blue jerseys, silver pants and silver helmets look great. I wouldn't be surprised if they switch back to them completely in another year or two.

I think their old ones are a bit bland, personally. But their new ones are gross. They need to come out with an entirely new look. If that isn't in the cards, yes, they could go back to their old ones. That would be an upgrade.

[stlbills13]

This is just such an interesting game to me. The Seahawks have always been a different team at home than they are on the road. But potentially no Metcalf or at least a hobbled Metcalf is a big deal especially with our outside corners. Geno Smith isn't bad but he's not a guy who goes and beats you. The run game is very strong. The defense is inconsistent but generally a little leaky. The Bills have several injuries although all the key players may be able to suit up. I think Bernard is the key. Taking on Kenneth Walker with Spector in the game doesn't sound appealing. 

 

I don't think we can afford a super slow start again. Having Cooper with another week under his belt is a big benefit too. Again, not just that he is more up to speed but pushing Shakir, Coleman, etc down in the depth chart in terms of defensive matchups is just huge. I also think Ray Davis is going to be a big factor

[MJS]

4 hours ago, balln said:

Not sure how the defense can get better. Straight up it’s a personal issue. We are never gonna play a sig % man to man. We’re gonna give up runs at the expense to stop the pass.
 

The problem is we’re playing cam Lewis on dime packages on 3rd down passing. And we ask  Dorian and Rapp to cover a lot of space (usually

the flats / leaks / hook to curl) early downs when they pass. And I still see these awful  Poorly timed and slow ineffective safety blitzes from way deep. So teams IMo are targeting our weaknesses in personnel. 
 

On offense. Titans game was a tale of two halves. First: it’s the same vanilla shotgun runs , and run run pass formula. 
 

Second half. Josh was under center more. The runs and passes were way more effective. They had 2 out of 3 play actions big gains. 
 

Overall offense: I still see a lot of blown up plays / like the D has an obvious key on the play. And the Allen designed runs from shotgun are becoming a waste

Even the teams that play a lot of man coverage still only play it, like, 40% of the time. Every team in the NFL is predominantly zone these days. Most teams overwhelmingly play zone.

[Warriorspikes51]

 

9 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Absolutely!

 

Their blue jerseys, silver pants and silver helmets look great. I wouldn't be surprised if they switch back to them completely in another year or two.

Maybe the best uniform set ever worn in the NFL.  The colors are fantastic 

[eball]

14 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

This is just such an interesting game to me. The Seahawks have always been a different team at home than they are on the road. But potentially no Metcalf or at least a hobbled Metcalf is a big deal especially with our outside corners. Geno Smith isn't bad but he's not a guy who goes and beats you. The run game is very strong. The defense is inconsistent but generally a little leaky. The Bills have several injuries although all the key players may be able to suit up. I think Bernard is the key. Taking on Kenneth Walker with Spector in the game doesn't sound appealing. 

 

I don't think we can afford a super slow start again. Having Cooper with another week under his belt is a big benefit too. Again, not just that he is more up to speed but pushing Shakir, Coleman, etc down in the depth chart in terms of defensive matchups is just huge. I also think Ray Davis is going to be a big factor

 

Geno has been playing like a top 10 NFL QB for a couple of years now.  Good thing the Bills' pass D is their strength.

 

In this game, however, the Bills could wind up with 200 yards rushing.  The Hawks' run D is that bad.

 

[JerseyBills]

 

WOW

 

 

[Buffalo4Life01]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Geno has been playing like a top 10 NFL QB for a couple of years now.  Good thing the Bills' pass D is their strength.

 

In this game, however, the Bills could wind up with 200 yards rushing.  The Hawks' run D is that bad.

 

agree 100%  But also, their pass Defense has not been good either.  They have good players on paper but they have vastly underperformed this year.  From what I've seen and read their secondary is too aggressive and are very susceptible to getting burned and giving up big plays.  

[MikePJ76]

10 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Geno has been playing like a top 10 NFL QB for a couple of years now.  Good thing the Bills' pass D is their strength.

 

In this game, however, the Bills could wind up with 200 yards rushing.  The Hawks' run D is that bad.

 

Seems like that is why they shuffled their linebackers.  Kicking dodson to the will and trading for jones to play in the middle is probably to help them play the run.  If they have one of their corners back this week that will probably help them use a safety in run support also.

[TFBillsfan]

29 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

 

WOW

 

 

I remember that sequence very well. Stunned how they didn’t call the fifteen yard penalty as teams could easily deploy that strategy. Just go knock out the kicker with zero consequences to ensure a win if a situation played out like that in the 4th qtr!

[Starr-Bills]

31 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

 

WOW

 

 

Oh those were (NOT) the days, just amazing.

[MikePJ76]

this feels like something to be concerned about for sunday.  The crowd noise, potential rain and Josh's recent running out of the pocket a little early is a little nerve wracking.  The running game being excellent will fix that but it won't be fun if its 3rd and 7+ all day.

 

Also I am surprised no one in the Buffalo media is talking about this but Leslie Frazier is the assistant head coach in Seattle.  Not sure what he does there since they have coordinators (not a really an impressive group there) and they are running the head coaches defense.  

 

Another thing that appears to be an issue with Seattle is their special teams have been bad.  I did not realize Jim Harbaugh's son Jay is the special teams coach until today.  I hate the harbaughs.  Beating a harbaugh family member will makes this game if they win twice as enjoyable.

 

also number 58 looks pretty good.

 

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 05:30 PM by MikePJ76

[BritBill]

39 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

 

WOW

 

 

Sherman was a shithouse right to the very last play of this game if I remember correctly. 

[boyst]

14 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Don't overlook that Taylor Rapp was out for 3/4 of the game as well.

 

We saw that in 2022 with Hamlin - he was servicable when paired with Poyer, but when he was paired with Jaquan Johnson the quality of safety play plummeted
 

Not that I'm saying Cole Bishop is Jaquan Johnson, but he's a rookie and still figuring things out.  Put two safeties who are figuring things out together with a backup nickel and two backup LB and things get fugly fast.

 

i never hoped to think of Jaquan Johnson again. good speed, good athlete, not great in our pro defense. i really thought he could step up with his athleticism and speed but as soon as he got to where he needed to be he'd drop the ball (figuratively) and often times be caught looking anywhere else but where he needed to be almost as if he was leodis mckelvin of the safety position. though i must say, mckelvin was underappreciated.

[Logic]

45 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

 

WOW

 

 

I have never been more irate than I was watching this play live in Seattle's stadium.

It was a horseshit play be the Seahawks, and the way the refs dealt with it was infuriatingly bad. 

It also had a direct impact on the outcome of the game and, worse yet, Dan Carpenter was basically never the same after this play. It sort of ruined his career.

It still makes me mad to watch and to think about.

[Andrew Son]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

i never hoped to think of Jaquan Johnson again. good speed, good athlete, not great in our pro defense. i really thought he could step up with his athleticism and speed but as soon as he got to where he needed to be he'd drop the ball (figuratively) and often times be caught looking anywhere else but where he needed to be almost as if he was leodis mckelvin of the safety position. though i must say, mckelvin was underappreciated.

Johnson was incredibly slow 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Andrew Son said:

Johnson was incredibly slow 

4.69 is not incredibly slow.

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

4.69 is not incredibly slow.

It is certainly not good speed for a DB.  You say he had good speed and Hamlin is slow.  What was Hamlin’s 40?

[boyst]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

It is certainly not good speed for a DB.  You say he had good speed and Hamlin is slow.  What was Hamlin’s 40?

4.6