The Coleman non-touchdown

[Ecmic82]

Just now, Meatloaf63 said:

Nope, it’s two feet down and a football move, not two feet down and then a football move. The too move can start as soon as there is possession/control.

The rulebook states, “after (a) [player secures the ball] and (b) [player touches the ground with both feet] have been fulfilled, [player] performs any act common to the game”

[Ecmic82]

2 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

How does that work with a toe drag?  Receiver is moving towards the boundary, makes the catch, and pretty close to simultaneously does the toe tap.  There is very little done other than catching the ball, getting two feet down and falling out of bounds.  The football move here is simultaneous to the catch and getting parts of both feet down.

An acceptable act, according to the rulebook, is simply possessing the ball long enough to theoretically make a football move, whether the player actually makes a football move or not isn’t the determinative factor.

 

So, going out of bounds on a toe drag, that’d look like maintained possession of the ball for a time beyond the moment the player touches the sideline. Surviving the ground while falling out of bounds would fall under this category as well.

[Dukestreetking]

4 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Once it's reviewed any part of the play that is normally reviewable is fair game.

 

Unless you're in Houston and a guy in a black jacket comes out of the stands. 

Thank you for this: was watching on an an LA-NYC flight, sitting next to another Bills fan, and we both lost our minds, very loudly. Other passengers thought we were terrorists.

 

Anyway, this play still drives me bat-sht crazy when I think about it (even if it was a "by-rule" call, or whatever).

[Einstein]

2 hours ago, Ecmic82 said:

An acceptable act, according to the rulebook, is simply possessing the ball long enough to theoretically make a football move, whether the player actually makes a football move or not isn’t the determinative factor.

 

So, going out of bounds on a toe drag, that’d look like maintained possession of the ball for a time beyond the moment the player touches the sideline. Surviving the ground while falling out of bounds would fall under this category as well.

 

How is turning upfield not a football move? Coleman definitley did that. 

[Ecmic82]

47 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

How is turning upfield not a football move? Coleman definitley did that. 

Turning up field is a football move, but only after the second foot comes down.
 

Most of the turn occurred before the second foot came down, so most of the turn cannot, by the rulebook, be considered the “football move” for that play.

 

the rulebook outlines three phases of a catch: (1) possession of the ball, (2) two feet or one other body part must touch the ground, and (3) an act common to the game (a football move). And they must occur in that specific order. 
 

Everything Coleman did before his second foot came down should be ignored when looking at the third phase of a catch.

Edited 19 hours ago by Ecmic82

[Scott7975]

On 10/20/2024 at 10:22 PM, JerseyBills said:

Even though it didn't work out, it's a great sign for the future, Allen trusts him 1v1 and he's only going to get better! Great throw,catch and timing 

 

With people on both sides of the argument about catch or no catch, this is the important thing. You are 100% right.  Cooper adds such an extra dimension to this team that it lacked.  Defense will have to play us different now. I expect Coleman to get a lot of opportunities as the weeks go on.