90sBills Posted Monday at 06:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:06 PM 44 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Is he still the betting favorite for MVP? These sports books are just stealing people's money at this point. Since when do sports books, or casinos, NOT steal people’s money? That’s their business model. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted Monday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:14 PM The reason why is because of strictly last year. Mahomes wasn't great last year and they turned it on in the playoffs. The Chiefs and Mahomes will continue to get the benefit of the doubt. The real question will be: If the Chiefs go undefeated and MAhomes has like 20 TDs and 17 picks will he win it? Sounds crazy but Lamar winning last year makes me think QB wins is super important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Look to beat KC, we have to blitz. Jam their WR's at the LOS and blitz. Its what spags does and if we play zone, its over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:15 PM 20 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: They guy has 3 Super Bowls, Josh has none. Have to eliminate KC from the playoffs or win the Super Bowl before this narrative changes significantly That and a 4th appearance so I love Josh even more, but I’m not going to complain when he has picks when Allen had a lot in the past, and is fine as he always has more TD’s than just about everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted Monday at 06:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:16 PM They are talking about the KC defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:17 PM 1 minute ago, CNYfan said: They are talking about the KC defense We have and can beat their defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted Monday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:01 PM 21 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Patrick Mahomes: 6 TD 6 INT 57.3 QBR Josh Allen: 10 TD 0 INT (Z-E-R-O...) 79.6 Why are none of the NFL talking heads decrying Mahomes as an inaccurate passer? Why is there no narrative about how he has regressed? Why aren't NFL talking heads criticizing Mahomes' lack of accuracy, or his sub-pedestrian numbers to this point in the season. Oh... Wait... They still have a stat to hang their hats on... Mahomes: 1,235 yards Allen: 1,160 yards So, I guess this year the measuring stick for NFL MVP is passing yards... Cool. Cause he hasnt lost yet this season... rattle off 2 in a row and I am gonna bet they talk about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted Monday at 07:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:08 PM If Mahomes had been drafted by the Browns, Jaguars, Jets, etc. he'd have been labelled a bust years ago. He fell into the perfect situation with Andy Reid and KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:16 PM 21 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Patrick Mahomes: 6 TD 6 INT 57.3 QBR Josh Allen: 10 TD 0 INT (Z-E-R-O...) 79.6 Why are none of the NFL talking heads decrying Mahomes as an inaccurate passer? Why is there no narrative about how he has regressed? Why aren't NFL talking heads criticizing Mahomes' lack of accuracy, or his sub-pedestrian numbers to this point in the season. Oh... Wait... They still have a stat to hang their hats on... Mahomes: 1,235 yards Allen: 1,160 yards So, I guess this year the measuring stick for NFL MVP is passing yards... Cool. For what ever reason people are so stubborn and stupid they don’t wanna give Allen the credit he deserves… Ibe been so burnt out on the Mahomes is best blah blah blah… Eye test and stats so far tell a different story… When’s the last time Mahomes ran over a line backer???At the end of the day people are just Jealous cause they don’t have a Josh Allen on there team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted Monday at 07:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:18 PM 1 minute ago, Bimmer323i said: For what ever reason people are so stubborn and stupid they don’t wanna give Allen the credit he deserves… Ibe been so burnt out on the Mahomes is best blah blah blah… Eye test and stats so far tell a different story… When’s the last time Mahomes ran over a line backer???At the end of the day people are just Jealous cause they don’t have a Josh Allen on there team It is not the LBs fault that they run away when he is running at them because they may get penalized or ejected for touching the KC Diva! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted Monday at 07:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:25 PM ‘You don’t tug on Superman’s cape, you don’t spit into the wind, you don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you don’t mess around with”..Pat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 07:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:27 PM 21 hours ago, FireChans said: If Pat was any other QB, he would be getting killed. but unfortunately, he isn’t, he’s a 2 time MVP and 3 time SB winner. So he gets more grace than anyone. Agreed...And its earned grace if we are being fair to Mahomes...its not like he won those SB's in the fashion of someone like Trent Dilfer or something. Dude won it all last year on one leg with a weak group of weapons. While I think Allen deserves to be right there with him, Mahomes has earned his leeway on the field. Now...if you want to know what separates Allen and Mahomes...well to me that is Chris Jones. Mahomes can afford more mistakes than Allen because KC's doesn't rely solely on Mahomes to close out games even though Mahomes almost always delivers when they do need him to close out a game. In Buffalo, how many times has Allen give the D a lead late and we still lost? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted yesterday at 10:27 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:27 AM 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Agreed...And its earned grace if we are being fair to Mahomes...its not like he won those SB's in the fashion of someone like Trent Dilfer or something. Dude won it all last year on one leg with a weak group of weapons. While I think Allen deserves to be right there with him, Mahomes has earned his leeway on the field. Now...if you want to know what separates Allen and Mahomes...well to me that is Chris Jones. Mahomes can afford more mistakes than Allen because KC's doesn't rely solely on Mahomes to close out games even though Mahomes almost always delivers when they do need him to close out a game. In Buffalo, how many times has Allen give the D a lead late and we still lost? Coaches are a bigger difference than Chris Jones’s. Reid and Spags are the dynamic duo on that team more than Mahomes and anyone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:46 PM 7 hours ago, Saxum said: It should be called as Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Have to feel bad for defenders. They have to think so much when attempting to tackle QBs or hit WRs. The more this stuff happens the more the NFL is going to have to let QBs get hit outside the pocket. I'd go so far as to say they should get rid of the QB slide. Once they are out of the pocket they are running backs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted yesterday at 05:55 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:55 PM 7 hours ago, Saxum said: It should be called as Unsportsmanlike Conduct. What should I didn't see anything close to bush league 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: What should I didn't see anything close to bush league He fakes a step out of bounds so the defender eases up to avoid a late hit penalty. Which Pat notices and then keeps running. It’s not illegal, but more of “this ***** guy…” type of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:59 PM 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: What should I didn't see anything close to bush league It was him almost going out of bounds and then racing down the sidelines. I'm sure it was intentional, in that the defenders let up (yes, that's on them...but honestly they are terrified to breath on QBs for fear of penalties and/or fines). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted yesterday at 06:00 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:00 PM 7 hours ago, NewEra said: Coaches are a bigger difference than Chris Jones’s. Reid and Spags are the dynamic duo on that team more than Mahomes and anyone else Wow. Reid and Spags should’ve gotten together years ago. They could’ve had 20 Lombardi’s by now. 1 minute ago, uninja said: He fakes a step out of bounds so the defender eases up to avoid a late hit penalty. Which Pat notices and then keeps running. It’s not illegal, but more of “this ***** guy…” type of stuff. Yeah he didn’t do that. The defender’s momentum coupled with Kareem Hunt’s push carried him to far out. Mahomes just stopped and the defender is passed him to the outside. It’s really that simple. We see Allen do it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM 6 minutes ago, uninja said: He fakes a step out of bounds so the defender eases up to avoid a late hit penalty. Which Pat notices and then keeps running. It’s not illegal, but more of “this ***** guy…” type of stuff. If it's not against the rules I'm all for it If folks want to be mad they should look at Warner for missing the easy tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted yesterday at 06:15 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:15 PM 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: If it's not against the rules I'm all for it If folks want to be mad they should look at Warner for missing the easy tackle I hate Mahomes as much as the next guy, but he did absolutely nothing wrong on that play. People crying about it look as foolish as the people that said Josh faked a slide against the Steelers on that long TD run in the playoff game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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