[Name Only Title] Dorian Williams

[mushypeaches]

I recognize that they are different positions, but it's not hard to think that Williams is already better than Edmunds ever was for this team.

At least the guy hits the run gaps aggressively instead of endlessly getting caught in the wash 10 yards downfield

[notpolian]

48 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

The gashing is schema driven. We are giving up the runs to play prevent. Oliver out does not help at all. And play calling was timid to start the Ravens game. We didn't pressure at all. And got smacked in the mouth.

Don't agree completely. Scheme didn't help, but big gains are often on the LBs and safeties.  Good teams have always been able to grind down the field on us.  Now they can break big gains occasionally too.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

What are you saying?

 

 

I am and always have been a Dorian Williams fans.

A little literary humor perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, PSUBB86 said:

We obviously miss Milano, but from my untrained eye, Williams is playing better and better at LB. Agree or disagree? I know he was a bit of a liability early on…

 

He was excellent against Jacksonville, poor at Baltimore, better against Houston.

[Virgil]

I think he's getting better and he made some great solo tackles on Henry.  The benefit of Milano's injuries is giving Williams more invaluable experience, which will pay off down the road.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was excellent against Jacksonville, poor at Baltimore, better against Houston.

I think you can say that about most of the defense.

[nedboy7]

This should lead to a "What can we get for Dorian" thread in a few hours.

 

Edited October 19 by nedboy7

[BigAl2526]

He's been solid.  No, he doesn't have the instincts and understanding of the nuances of the defense that Milano has developed over the years of his career as a Bill.  I'm OK with that.  If Milano comes back healthy Buffalo has great depth at the Will spot.  If Milano is done, Buffalo is still in decent shape moving forward.  They'll just need to develop a new player to back up Williams.

[balln]

26 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

I recognize that they are different positions, but it's not hard to think that Williams is already better than Edmunds ever was for this team.

At least the guy hits the run gaps aggressively instead of endlessly getting caught in the wash 10 yards downfield

I agree w that. Edmunds was so over rated 

[eSJayDee]

I'm no expert, but to me, near the LOS, moving forward, he's good, maybe Milano's equal.  Out in space?  Leaves something (arguably a lot) to be desired.

[Zag20]

2 hours ago, T master said:

 

Allowing Edmunds to leave was a god send for the teams D, he was a "good" player but given his size and speed should have been a HOF talent but wasn't . Benford on the other hand almost immediately show'd that he was a much better player than Edmunds & his production has been astounding .

 

This season i couldn't wait to see him & Millano on the field at the same time and we did for a very short time but i can't wait for Millano to get back, then add to the mix the way Williams is playing that is just another plus and he is also showing him self to be making a bigger impact than Edmunds & for much less cash .

 

So let the Bears have his big contract & his mediocre play that's all right by me ...

Bernard, not Benford.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, mushypeaches said:

I recognize that they are different positions, but it's not hard to think that Williams is already better than Edmunds ever was for this team.

At least the guy hits the run gaps aggressively instead of endlessly getting caught in the wash 10 yards downfield

 

He hits the wrong gap plenty though.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

What are you saying?

 

 

I am and always have been a Dorian Williams fans.

 

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

A little literary humor perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray

Agreed!  Exactly what I was alluding to.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He hits the wrong gap plenty though.

that’s what I was wondering.
 

Not “fitting it up,” as good ole Dave Wantstad used to say after we would give up 300 yards rushing.

[JoshAllin]

Until they can stop the run game, the LB's back there besides Bernard are garbo

[Thurman#1]

8 hours ago, PSUBB86 said:

We obviously miss Milano, but from my untrained eye, Williams is playing better and better at LB. Agree or disagree? I know he was a bit of a liability early on…

 

 

Better than Milano? No, certainly not. Better than Milano did as a second-year-man? Hmm, maybe. In that neighborhood, anyway.

 

He's drastically improved this year.

 

 

6 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

I recognize that they are different positions, but it's not hard to think that Williams is already better than Edmunds ever was for this team.

At least the guy hits the run gaps aggressively instead of endlessly getting caught in the wash 10 yards downfield

 

 

Edmunds was a lot more effective in pass defense.

 

If you looked at opponent pass distribution charts, teams threw very very little over the middle against Edmunds.

 

But again, Williams is young and still developing.

 

 

Edited October 19 by Thurman#1

[balln]

I just see backup. He grades out that way.

 

which. Is good. He was drafted as a STer and to be a backup. At least he went from can’t play to- can play as a backup now

[K-9]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was excellent against Jacksonville, poor at Baltimore, better against Houston.

He’s been the model of inconsistency and that’s probably the best thing I can say about him at this time. He still guesses wrong too often for my liking, especially on play fakes. 

[RG Murdock]

How much football has Milano played in the last 24 months? Not much. He hasn't been on a team picture in 2 years. He's just going to come back with 4 games left in the season and pick up where he left off? No way, they'll have bring him in slowly. Milano has never played a full season. The most he's ever played is 13 games. Sorry, he's just way to unreliable. It got to the point that every time a player went down on defense, I thought it was probably Milano. Great player, a difference maker in most games he played, but I'm tired of seeing him is street clothes. Anyone think he's going to become more reliable with age? Hopefully this is his last Bills contract. Williams is looking like a fine replacement. And he actually plays.       

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

How much football has Milano played in the last 24 months? Not much. He hasn't been on a team picture in 2 years. He's just going to come back with 4 games left in the season and pick up where he left off? No way, they'll have bring him in slowly. Milano has never played a full season. The most he's ever played is 13 games. Sorry, he's just way to unreliable. It got to the point that every time a player went down on defense, I thought it was probably Milano. Great player, a difference maker in most games he played, but I'm tired of seeing him is street clothes. Anyone think he's going to become more reliable with age? Hopefully this is his last Bills contract. Williams is looking like a fine replacement. And he actually plays.       

 

He'll get a 3-4 game tryout to see if he can knock off the rust and get back up to speed.