Cleveland Browns building a new dome stadium

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

The continued obsession by some over a dome is funny to me.  The new stadium is going to be beautiful, comfortable, and protect the majority of fans from the elements…and as you said, it’s a fallacy that domed stadiums create lots of opportunities for other events.  They’ll still host spring/summer concerts and a dome isn’t needed for that.

 

 

there is one event on the Highmark calendar that is not a Bills game between now and the rest of the season.

[May Day 10]

Im sure they studied the possible events vs the cost and schedule of an indoor venue (both in place and downtown, and likely Amherst as well).  

 

It wasnt worth it

 

I dont think Buffalo the market is a big draw for large events that require a football stadium.  The downtown arena is adequate for 99% of possible events.  The indoor stadium space has become quite crowded and competitive.  Especially with Cleveland and Nashville joining the fray.  

[SoCal Deek]

49 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

there is one event on the Highmark calendar that is not a Bills game between now and the rest of the season.

Is it the Super Bowl?

[djp14150]

51 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Im sure they studied the possible events vs the cost and schedule of an indoor venue (both in place and downtown, and likely Amherst as well).  

 

It wasnt worth it

 

I dont think Buffalo the market is a big draw for large events that require a football stadium.  The downtown arena is adequate for 99% of possible events.  The indoor stadium space has become quite crowded and competitive.  Especially with Cleveland and Nashville joining the fray.  

They could had been a host for a World Cup game

 

if Buffalo was generally larger where they could host things like final 4s, political conventions, college bowl game, large concerts then the events pay for the roof.

 

Cleveland is larger where it has the hotel space to host these events ( but thus not being downtown/ disjoint from hotels will hurt)

[Gregg]

The only thing that Buffalo is scheduled for per Gary Bettman is another outdoor classic game at the Bills new stadium. Hopefully the Sabres are a good team by then.

[RiotAct]

42 minutes ago, Gregg said:

The only thing that Buffalo is scheduled for per Gary Bettman is another outdoor classic game at the Bills new stadium. Hopefully the Sabres are a good team by then.

lulz

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Is it the Super Bowl?

lol if only. 

 

its some country music thing

3 hours ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

How could we not have a retractable dome with arguably the best good conditions QB in football? Don’t the best fans in football deserve to enjoy December and January games in the comfort of a dome. Snow and frigid conditions take away from attracting FAs, tourism and the quality of the viewing product. In 2025 why are we committed to thumbing our nose at architectural advances. I know that the decision to build an open air stadium was to press our cold weather identity and advantage but how has that worked out since the early 90s? Too late now but for the amount of taxpayer dollars spent on this stadium the fans and corporate sponsors should have had input in this decision.

Bills lack of rings has no correlation to lack of dome

[HamptonBillsfan]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

lol if only. 

 

its some country music thing

Bills lack of rings has no correlation to lack of dome

Still an imbecilic decision and what’s the psychology behind spending billions of taxpayer money in the Lake effect snow capital of the world on an open air stadium.

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Still an imbecilic decision and what’s the psychology behind spending billions of taxpayer money in the Lake effect snow capital of the world on an open air stadium.

taxpayers didn’t spend billions

 

Bills average less than 1 home game in the snow per season

 

Syracuse is the lake effect capital 

[MikePJ76]

14 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Still an imbecilic decision and what’s the psychology behind spending billions of taxpayer money in the Lake effect snow capital of the world on an open air stadium.

while i hate billionaires and believe it is ridiculous they do not pay for these facilities alone, the taxpayers are not paying billions for the stadium.

[HamptonBillsfan]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

taxpayers didn’t spend billions

 

Bills average less than 1 home game in the snow per season

 

Syracuse is the lake effect capital 

Try taking some time to research the way the the Stadium is being financed. 850 million from taxpayers and another 800 million between state and county. Those funds from state and county could have been earmarked for other worthy taxpayer needs. The stadium is 200 million over appropriated funds. Also Buffalo is statistically the snowiest city with 20 snow days during the season. How many playoff games like the Cinn game or the games played in single digits do fans have withstand. How many times are season ticket holders going to be asked to shovel snow.? 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

there is one event on the Highmark calendar that is not a Bills game between now and the rest of the season.

A list bands usually won't book Highmark stadium on their tours because of Buffalo's lower population compared to most major cities with sports teams.  Lower ticket sales lead to lower revenue for bands.  A new domed stadium isn't going to change that.

[HamptonBillsfan]

21 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

while i hate billionaires and believe it is ridiculous they do not pay for these facilities alone, the taxpayers are not paying billions for the stadium.

Ask Google or any search engine who’s financing the Stadium. Pegulas not paying for it. It’s 850 million taxpayers, 700 million between state and county. It’s already 200 million over appropriation projections. Hard to swallow huh. 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

A list bands usually won't book Highmark stadium on their tours because of Buffalo's lower population compared to most major cities with sports teams.  Lower ticket sales lead to lower revenue for bands.  A new domed stadium isn't going to change that.

 

Actually stadium acts avoid Highmark because it only has one narrow access to field level, slowing down the process of building and tearing down stages. Bands want to get in and out. If Taylor Swift or Dead & Co was playing at Highmark, people would travel hours to see the show. So local population is not a deterrent. 

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Ask Google or any search engine who’s financing the Stadium. Pegulas not paying for it. It’s 850 million taxpayers, 700 million between state and county. It’s already 200 million over appropriation projections. Hard to swallow huh. 

Nearly 500 million of the states portion came from the seneca nations revenue they share with the state from slot machines.

 

erie county has a large bill though with 250 million but I believe they issued 125 million in municipal bonds.

 

Again, I agree billionaires should pay the freight for their toys 100%.  

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Ask Google or any search engine who’s financing the Stadium. Pegulas not paying for it. It’s 850 million taxpayers, 700 million between state and county. It’s already 200 million over appropriation projections. Hard to swallow huh. 

 

 

I took your advice. I googled it. The answer is totally different. The Bills are now on the hook for over a billion.

 

 https://www.google.com/search?q=break+down+the+financing+for+the+new+highmark+stadium&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS946US946&oq=break+down+the+financing+for+the+new+highmark+stadium&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRirAjIHCAUQIRirAjIHCAYQIRifBTIHCAcQIRifBTIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRifBdIBCTEwMDUxajBqN6gCCLACAfEFIjfLc2Qp8C8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

The financing for the new Highmark Stadium, initially estimated at $1.4 billion, is a mix of public and private funding, with the state of New York contributing $600 million, Erie County $250 million, the NFL loaning $200 million, and the Buffalo Bills covering the remaining $350 million. 
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Total Cost:
The initial cost estimate was $1.4 billion, but has since ballooned to over $2.1 billion. 
Public Funding:
New York State: $600 million. 
Erie County: $250 million. 
Total Public Funding: $850 million. 
Private Funding:
Buffalo Bills: $350 million. 
NFL: $200 million (via a G-4 loan). 

[MikePJ76]

13 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Try taking some time to research the way the the Stadium is being financed. 850 million from taxpayers and another 800 million between state and county. Those funds from state and county could have been earmarked for other worthy taxpayer needs. The stadium is 200 million over appropriated funds. Also Buffalo is statistically the snowiest city with 20 snow days during the season. How many playoff games like the Cinn game or the games played in single digits do fans have withstand. How many times are season ticket holders going to be asked to shovel snow.? 

no one is going to have to shovel snow at the new stadium nor will fans sit in seats filled with snow in the new building.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Bills fans in the new stadium after shelling out 10k for PSLs and season tickets 

[Doc Brown]

15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Actually stadium acts avoid Highmark because it only has one narrow access to field level, slowing down the process of building and tearing down stages. Bands want to get in and out. If Taylor Swift or Dead & Co was playing at Highmark, people would travel hours to see the show. So local population is not a deterrent. 

Do you think the new stadium will attract more A list artists or just keep having them skip us on their way to Toronto?

Edited March 21 by Doc Brown

[SoCal Deek]

30 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Ask Google or any search engine who’s financing the Stadium. Pegulas not paying for it. It’s 850 million taxpayers, 700 million between state and county. It’s already 200 million over appropriation projections. Hard to swallow huh. 

Huh? Pegula is paying for everything that isn’t paid for by the state/county. Now, it’s your expectation that he NOT get his money back on ticket sales? Really? Interesting.