They lied about the crime stats - ABC “fact check” of Trump at the debate was a lie

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[JaCrispy]

Yup just saw that…

 

Trump was right all along…

 

Just goes to show that “fact checking” is nothing more than partisan propaganda…

 

But of course, we already knew that…👍

 

 

Edited October 17 by JaCrispy

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

You're citing Joe Blow on Tik tock?  Well done sir

[K D]

FREE SPEECH is still undefeated. Don't call us FAR RIGHT just call us RIGHT SO FAR!

[B-Man]

8 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

You're citing Joe Blow on Tik tock?  Well done sir

 

 

Standard diversion attempt.

 

 

[Irv]

8 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

You're citing Joe Blow on Tik tock?  Well done sir

Who needs fake statistics?  Enter any retail store and look how almost everything of value is now under lock and key since Cumala and her demented buddy took over.  Watch the stolen ATV/Dirt Bike crew terrorize the streets.  Watch the news about stolen Hyundai’s and Kia’s.    
 

Glad to see you still have for empty head in the sand.  What a mess. 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Standard diversion attempt.

 

 

Goofball spent a good chunk of the day imagining that the revised violent crime stats were a Julie Kelly op. Once someone was thoughtful enough to point out his dumbassery, he still didn’t have enough spine to comment on the actual data. Truly pathetic. 

[Artful Dodger]

In CNN's defense, at the time of the debate, the FBI's numbers showed that crime was down.  But someone ought to look into why a variety of different agencies have been getting their data numbers wrong so consistently.  Another example would be the recent vast downward revision of the number of jobs created over the last several years.   However, one should never attribute to a conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.  

 

I just got back from a west coast trip, where I drove along the Pacific Coast and visited Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco.   No one visiting those cities could possibly conclude that crime and disorder are not a problem.   In Portland, during the day in the downtown area, "normal" looking people outnumbered the homeless and obvious drug users and crazy people only by about 3 to 2.  I saw a woman walking around with open sores on her face.  It was positively medieval.  in San Francisco, I walked from the waterfront area up Market Street to the former HQ of Twitter to see if the city was the "dystopian hellscape" that Elon Musk described.  It isn't quite as bad as Musk said, though if nothing changes, it's easy to see that it could get there.  On the way up Market Street, I passed the Harris/Walz campaign HQ.  There was literally no other occupied ground floor retail on the same block.  Everything was shut down.  

 

When government agencies publish false information that clearly doesn't jibe with reality, sensible people will always choose reality, which is why it's so dangerous for government agencies to produce false and misleading statistics, whether deliberately or (more likely) through incompetence.  They lose their credibility.  

[K D]

8 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

In CNN's defense, at the time of the debate, the FBI's numbers showed that crime was down.  But someone ought to look into why a variety of different agencies have been getting their data numbers wrong so consistently.  Another example would be the recent vast downward revision of the number of jobs created over the last several years.   However, one should never attribute to a conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.  

 

I just got back from a west coast trip, where I drove along the Pacific Coast and visited Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco.   No one visiting those cities could possibly conclude that crime and disorder are not a problem.   In Portland, during the day in the downtown area, "normal" looking people outnumbered the homeless and obvious drug users and crazy people only by about 3 to 2.  I saw a woman walking around with open sores on her face.  It was positively medieval.  in San Francisco, I walked from the waterfront area up Market Street to the former HQ of Twitter to see if the city was the "dystopian hellscape" that Elon Musk described.  It isn't quite as bad as Musk said, though if nothing changes, it's easy to see that it could get there.  On the way up Market Street, I passed the Harris/Walz campaign HQ.  There was literally no other occupied ground floor retail on the same block.  Everything was shut down.  

 

When government agencies publish false information that clearly doesn't jibe with reality, sensible people will always choose reality, which is why it's so dangerous for government agencies to produce false and misleading statistics, whether deliberately or (more likely) through incompetence.  They lose their credibility.  

It's pretty obvious that the agencies reporting these numbers have become politically compromised. They put Dems in charge and give them their marching orders. Have you ever been to a government office that wasn't run by liberals? Trump promised to drain the swamp but I don't think he understood how deep it all goes but I'm hoping they will do a better job this time around. If he puts Elon in charge of government efficiency then he will straighten a lot of it out and fire all of these useless and compromised people. The government was always meant to be small and it's gotten out of control 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

54 minutes ago, Irv said:

Who needs fake statistics?  Enter any retail store and look how almost everything of value is now under lock and key since Cumala and her demented buddy took over.  Watch the stolen ATV/Dirt Bike crew terrorize the streets.  Watch the news about stolen Hyundai’s and Kia’s.    
 

Glad to see you still have for empty head in the sand.  What a mess. 

You're an idiot.

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Standard diversion attempt.

 

 

standard use of appeal to authority.  In this case, some nobody on tik tok

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

32 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

In CNN's defense, at the time of the debate, the FBI's numbers showed that crime was down.  But someone ought to look into why a variety of different agencies have been getting their data numbers wrong so consistently.  Another example would be the recent vast downward revision of the number of jobs created over the last several years.   However, one should never attribute to a conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.  

 

I just got back from a west coast trip, where I drove along the Pacific Coast and visited Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco.   No one visiting those cities could possibly conclude that crime and disorder are not a problem.   In Portland, during the day in the downtown area, "normal" looking people outnumbered the homeless and obvious drug users and crazy people only by about 3 to 2.  I saw a woman walking around with open sores on her face.  It was positively medieval.  in San Francisco, I walked from the waterfront area up Market Street to the former HQ of Twitter to see if the city was the "dystopian hellscape" that Elon Musk described.  It isn't quite as bad as Musk said, though if nothing changes, it's easy to see that it could get there.  On the way up Market Street, I passed the Harris/Walz campaign HQ.  There was literally no other occupied ground floor retail on the same block.  Everything was shut down.  

 

When government agencies publish false information that clearly doesn't jibe with reality, sensible people will always choose reality, which is why it's so dangerous for government agencies to produce false and misleading statistics, whether deliberately or (more likely) through incompetence.  They lose their credibility.  

Nice post.

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

Who needs fake statistics?  Enter any retail store and look how almost everything of value is now under lock and key since Cumala and her demented buddy took over.  Watch the stolen ATV/Dirt Bike crew terrorize the streets.  Watch the news about stolen Hyundai’s and Kia’s.    
 

Glad to see you still have for empty head in the sand.  What a mess. 

I will point out that my immediate area, until you get the Maxwell Frost territory, is actually as safe as ever. There is literally about a 3 block area where it transitions to a lot more crime and it is right around where the vote turns blue 

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

You're an idiot.

standard use of appeal to authority.  In this case, some nobody on tik tok

Are you arguing that the FBI did not revise the numbers up drastically? Your point seems to be that facts only matter if CNN is reporting it.

[Irv]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

You're an idiot.

standard use of appeal to authority.  In this case, some nobody on tik tok

If I'm an idiot why is everything of value in stores locked down?  Why are there mobs of kids terrorizing every city with stolen, unlicensed dirt bikes and ATV's and not be punished?  Why are the same losers stealing Kia's and Hyundai's for the tenth time and still getting released with an appearance ticket?    Why are truckloads of fentanyl coming across the southern border, unchecked daily?  Why did the jizz guzzler Cumala raise funds for rioters?  Why did the sperm gurgler Cumala promote Californa law that permits shoplifting up to $950 in merchandise without consequence?  Why does spooge slammer Cumala stay married to a man who beat the shiite out of his ex-wife?  

 

Because he/it/they is weak on crime.  Anything for a vote.  What a mess.  

 

 

Edited October 17 by Irv

[Doc]

11 hours ago, Artful Dodger said:

In CNN's defense, at the time of the debate, the FBI's numbers showed that crime was down.  But someone ought to look into why a variety of different agencies have been getting their data numbers wrong so consistently.  Another example would be the recent vast downward revision of the number of jobs created over the last several years.   However, one should never attribute to a conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.  

 

I just got back from a west coast trip, where I drove along the Pacific Coast and visited Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco.   No one visiting those cities could possibly conclude that crime and disorder are not a problem.   In Portland, during the day in the downtown area, "normal" looking people outnumbered the homeless and obvious drug users and crazy people only by about 3 to 2.  I saw a woman walking around with open sores on her face.  It was positively medieval.  in San Francisco, I walked from the waterfront area up Market Street to the former HQ of Twitter to see if the city was the "dystopian hellscape" that Elon Musk described.  It isn't quite as bad as Musk said, though if nothing changes, it's easy to see that it could get there.  On the way up Market Street, I passed the Harris/Walz campaign HQ.  There was literally no other occupied ground floor retail on the same block.  Everything was shut down.  

 

When government agencies publish false information that clearly doesn't jibe with reality, sensible people will always choose reality, which is why it's so dangerous for government agencies to produce false and misleading statistics, whether deliberately or (more likely) through incompetence.  They lose their credibility.  

 

The numbers are always wrong in a certain direction.  It's not incompetence...

[B-Man]

 

Since this story is being discussed everywhere,

 

are we still clinging to the "Kelly / TikTok / lack of authority"  distraction ?

 

 

 

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[Big Blitz]

 

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