Trade Deadline

[nosejob]

39 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I would seriously consider pushing some extra chips in on J Simmons for TN.  He would be an immediate disruptor on the DL. 
 

Would have to get creative but why not assuming TN would consider it. They aren’t going anywhere soon. 

Didn't he sign a Wilkins type of deal in 23 or something? I would mess myself if that happened. I would drop a 2nd in a heartbeat.

[JGMcD2]

8 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Because Amari plays DL...

Did you say anything about DL? It was a vague statement about Beane standing pat and the Lions not. 
 

We’re also not pursuing a DE, so it doesn’t even matter. 

[gonzo1105]

Khalil Herbert to the Bengals for a 7th rounder after the Zack Moss injury.

[Gregg]

NFL on X: "Panthers to trade WR Jonathan Mingo & 2025 7th-round draft pick to Cowboys for 2025 4th-round pick. (via @TomPelissero, @RapSheet) https://t.co/UhvKXIfEo3" / X

[HappyDays]

My thought is that the trade deadline should be about setting us up for the playoffs, not setting us up for November. Usually I am all about stacking the WR room, but unless Coleman's injury is a season ender we can enter the playoffs with a trio of Cooper/Coleman/Shakir. That is not a dominant group by any means but I'm good with it. We probably have the cap room to make exactly one trade (thanks to Beane's awful FA spending this year, but that's a topic for another thread). WR is the wrong position to use it on IMO.

 

For me the position group most likely to kill us in the playoffs as currently constructed is DT and it's not close. We're going to see some great rushing teams in the playoffs - some combination of the Chargers, Texans, Ravens, Chiefs, and finally the Lions if we make it that far. And other than the Chargers, you also have to respect the pass for each of those teams. We aren't going to see any Seattle minus DK Metcalf offenses where we can just sell out to stop the run. Somebody up front needs to be able to make individual plays to shut down the run, and right now we don't have anyone on the roster capable of that. Eli Ankou might be our best run stopper which is insane.

 

So give me a big DT and hope to enter the playoffs healthy. That gives us our best shot at making a run IMO.

 

Edited November 5 by HappyDays

[Bigvinny]

23 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Joseph-Day is the only move I am hoping to see today. We are too thin on the Dline now. 

What about Clowney ?

[Chandler#81]

We need DT help!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

57 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Our LBer play has been very poor this year. We play super bend-but-don’t-break defense in part to protect our safeties which is a super weak positional group. We have no pass rush. Adding Cooper is great, but the WR group is still pretty weak. Depth behind Taron Johnson (Cam Lewis) has been really bad, and Johnson has been injured a lot this season.

 

If we break the bank on a pass rusher, Mahomes will just carve up our poor LBers and Safeties. This just isn’t an “all in” roster. It was supposed to be a re-tool year where we take our cap medicine and some younger players get reps.

I just respectfully completely disagree. 

First of all the linebackers aren't going to change next year.  It's Bernard and Williams. Milano may come back this year but he will be 15 months removed from playing a NFL game and will likely be a cap casualty this off season.

The SS for 2025 is already on the roster. A FS is not going to be make it break this team's success.

If Cooper is healthy they have more than enough weapons on offense. 

 

They are a pass rusher away from being a much better defense. AJE and Miller are just not good enough. Oliver is too inconsistent.  They just need to add one capable edge rusher and they have a real shot at the SuperBowl 

 

This insanity of always waiting for next year and protecting future lottery picks is respectfully just ludicrous. 

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

NFL on X: "Panthers to trade WR Jonathan Mingo & 2025 7th-round draft pick to Cowboys for 2025 4th-round pick. (via @TomPelissero, @RapSheet) https://t.co/UhvKXIfEo3" / X

 

Thats a terrible trade for the Cowboys. Mingo has literally done dirt in the league and giving up a 4th for him is too much. I get the upside thing and the need especially with Lamb getting nicked up but yuck. He's gotten passed up by Jalen Coker who went undrafted this year.

[Blank Stare]

3 minutes ago, Gregg said:

NFL on X: "Panthers to trade WR Jonathan Mingo & 2025 7th-round draft pick to Cowboys for 2025 4th-round pick. (via @TomPelissero, @RapSheet) https://t.co/UhvKXIfEo3" / X

[Buffalo_Stampede]

The Marshon Lattimore trade talk has me a bit nervous he’s going to an AFC contender. He is a game changer.

[Bruffalo]

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

NFL on X: "Panthers to trade WR Jonathan Mingo & 2025 7th-round draft pick to Cowboys for 2025 4th-round pick. (via @TomPelissero, @RapSheet) https://t.co/UhvKXIfEo3" / X

This screams that the coach is about to be fired. 

 

Mingo isn't good (like by any metric) and Jones is floundering. 

[947]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The Marshon Lattimore trade talk has me a bit nervous he’s going to an AFC contender. He is a game changer.

He's really not a game-changer anymore. He's still good, but not what he once was- similar to Jalen Ramsey.

[mjt328]

I would be very surprised if the Bills don't move for a D-Line player today.

Yes, everyone knows that our Defense plays light boxes and invites teams to run the ball.  But we can't just have games like the Ravens or Dolphins, and expect to have success in the postseason.  We must do a better job stopping the run, and we must do a better job rushing the passer.  

 

Outside of Groot and the occasional splash play from AJ Epenesa, this group just isn't getting it done.  Our interior has been very disappointing all season.  It's fair to question whether Daquan Jones is on the downside of his career (age).  And Ed Oliver always seems to disappear when the 1-Tech next to him isn't playing well.  And now the injuries are starting to pile up.

 

 

[DCofNC]

If this team can’t find a way to stop the run, without selling out, it’s another early playoff exit coming.  I don’t think the solution is there with the current roster, I’m not sure it’s even one piece away.  In my eyes they need a real run stuffing DT, need Oliver to quit washing himself out and leaving gapping holes, need LBs who can’t be shoved out of the way with one arm.  To me, this D will be the reason they get bounced.  The O is not good enough, but with Allen, there’s a chance.  End of the game, the D will be the weak link that will break their back, as it always has and this year’s is the worst we’ve seen since McD took over.

[Allen2Moulds]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

My thought is that the trade deadline should be about setting us up for the playoffs, not setting us up for November. Usually I am all about stacking the WR room, but unless Coleman's injury is a season ender we can enter the playoffs with a trio of Cooper/Coleman/Shakir. That is not a dominant group by any means but I'm good with it. We probably have the cap room to make exactly one trade (thanks to Beane's awful FA spending this year, but that's a topic for another thread). WR is the wrong position to use it on IMO.

 

For me the position group most likely to kill us in the playoffs as currently constructed is DT and it's not close. We're going to see some great rushing teams in the playoffs - some combination of the Chargers, Texans, Ravens, Chiefs, and finally the Lions if we make it that far. And other than the Chargers, you also have to respect the pass for each of those teams. We aren't going to see any Seattle minus DK Metcalf offenses where we can just sell out to stop the run. Somebody up front needs to be able to make individual plays to shut down the run, and right now we don't have anyone on the roster capable of that. Eli Ankou might be our best run stopper which is insane.

 

So give me a big DT and hope to enter the playoffs healthy. That gives us our best shot at making a run IMO.

 

100%.  Couldn't agree more.

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

This screams that the coach is about to be fired. 

 

Mingo isn't good (like by any metric) and Jones is floundering. 

 

McCarthy is done. The only question is does Jerry fire him in season or wait until the season is over. The Cowboys will probably suffer another bad loss this week vs the Eagles.

[dma0034]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The Marshon Lattimore trade talk has me a bit nervous he’s going to an AFC contender. He is a game changer.

 

 

I think the Ravens would be all in on him. Maybe the Chiefs since their #2 CB is hurt.

[DapperCam]

13 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I just respectfully completely disagree. 

First of all the linebackers aren't going to change next year.  It's Bernard and Williams. Milano may come back this year but he will be 15 months removed from playing a NFL game and will likely be a cap casualty this off season.

The SS for 2025 is already on the roster. A FS is not going to be make it break this team's success.

If Cooper is healthy they have more than enough weapons on offense. 

 

They are a pass rusher away from being a much better defense. AJE and Miller are just not good enough. Oliver is too inconsistent.  They just need to add one capable edge rusher and they have a real shot at the SuperBowl 

 

This insanity of always waiting for next year and protecting future lottery picks is respectfully just ludicrous. 

It’s also protecting future cap hits as well. They need to replace these aging guys with rookie contracts. Von Miller needs replaced (maybe Solomon can do that, maybe they use that 1st round pick on a pure EDGE). Daquan Jones needs replaced. That would probably be a good use of the 2nd round pick from the Vikings…

 

Dorian Williams needs to be replaced IMO due to performance, maybe we can sign a FA to do that.

 

Or we could get one player for 2 seasons by using all of that draft capital and burning cap next season. All to have Mahomes pass all over our mid LBers and Safeties anyway because we have holes all over the roster.

[BillsFan2313]

23 minutes ago, Gregg said:

NFL on X: "Panthers to trade WR Jonathan Mingo & 2025 7th-round draft pick to Cowboys for 2025 4th-round pick. (via @TomPelissero, @RapSheet) https://t.co/UhvKXIfEo3" / X

 

Leave it to Jerry to ruin trade value on trade deadline day. What a terrible trade.