Trade Deadline

[BlazinBill]

32 minutes ago, Beast said:

i actually feel the opposite. Milano will play his ass off when he returns. If his leg is fine, he will be too, and I see no reason why it shouldn’t be. Williams is another hell of an option to start. 5th in the NFL in tackles. 

 

Now, if you want to upgrade Spector and Hamlin, I’m all ears.

I mean I hope Milano can- and if he can he will for sure- I guess I'm having flashbacks of AJ Klein missing his vacation as well as tackles and looking like almost anyone trying to defend an AI crossover. I just don't love or trust Spector to stay healthy. Bernard is solid for sure - love the guy but he seems fragile to me. I look at Williams as A great sub for Milano - just need some stable back up mike lb - so I think we are in alignment there.

 

Regarding my DT comment - it's again about depth to me- don't love how it looks when we loose a starter is all- and I feel like in the playoffs dline play is critical- need more push 

 

I love that Rapp is panning out but something about Hamlin just makes me uncomfortable and I would take a over the hill Hyde back there all day

Edited October 22 by BlazinBill

[Kirby Jackson]

21 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

2 firsts, a 2nd, a 4th and a 6th may not be enough for a guy who needs surgery this offseason who isn't a QB?  And you think it may not be enough?  Not only will he not go for more than that, but even that much is far fetched.  If the Browns fleece someone for that, then kudos to them.  

 

Question...can you think of another in season trade for a vet that netted that much compensation?  I honestly can't, doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but I can't think of any non QB going for that much in trade during a season.

 

People do over estimate trade values all the time though.

He will 100% go for 2 1sts plus more. He’s, arguably, the best pass rusher in the world. Pass rush and #1 WR are the most coveted positions outside of QB. That’s what Justin Jefferson would cost too.

 

You win with stars and generational players. Garrett isn’t Bradley Chubb (who went for a 1, 4, and Edmonds for a 5th). Garrett is generational. I’ll wager whatever you want that they get 2 first rounders plus more. I don’t know exactly where it’ll end but that is absolutely the comp. The Bears traded 2 firsts, a 3rd & 6th for Mack, a 2 and a 7. This compensation will be more.
 

Our fan base has a history of overrating our own players (see any WR thread prior to last week) and underrating other players in the league (someone last week said that they didn’t want Davante Adams taking snaps from Mack Hollins). Myles Garrett is a HOF pass rusher in his prime. Based on this we are overrating the foot injury too: https://www.ankle-footspecialist.com/blog/myles-garretts-injured-foot

 

With all of that being said, I don’t think that the Bills are the destination. The Lions feel like the ideal place. Za’Darius Smith would fit the Bills though.

Edited October 23 by Kirby Jackson

[finn]

1 hour ago, BlazinBill said:

I love that Rapp is panning out but something about Hamlin just makes me uncomfortable and I would take a over the hill Hyde back there all day

Could it be him playing 75 yards off the line of scrimmage on every passing play? 

[Alphadawg7]

53 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He will 100% go for 2 1sts plus more. He’s, arguably, the best pass rusher in the world. Pass rush and #1 WR are the most coveted positions outside of QB. That’s what Justin Jefferson would cost too.

 

You win with stars and generational players. Garrett isn’t Bradley Chubb (who went for a 1, 4, and Edmonds for a 5th). Garrett is generational. I’ll wager whatever you want that they get 2 first rounders plus more. I don’t know exactly where it’ll end but that is absolutely the comp. The Bears traded 2 firsts, a 3rd & 6th for Mack, a 2 and a 7. This compensation will be more.
 

Our fan base has a history of overrating our own players (see any WR thread prior to last week) and underrating other players in the league (someone last week said that they didn’t want Davante Adams taking snaps from Mack Hollins). Myles Garrett is a HOF pass rusher in his prime. Bases on this we are overrating the foot injury too: https://www.ankle-footspecialist.com/blog/myles-garretts-injured-foot

 

With all of that being said, I don’t think that the Bills are the destination. The Lions feel like the ideal place. Za’Darius Smith would fit the Bills though.

The conversation wasn’t 2 firsts.  It was 2 firsts, a 2nd, and 4th and a 6th.  And then you said it may be more than that.  
 

I never said he wouldn’t get 2 firsts.  I said he wouldn’t get all of that, especially for a guy who needs surgery.  
 

And everyone scoffed at what the Bears gave up for the Mack trade.  

[Maynard]

I think Azeez Ojulari might be one to keep an eye on. 

[BlazinBill]

44 minutes ago, finn said:

Could it be him playing 75 yards off the line of scrimmage on every passing play? 

Likely - the style that I always blamed Frasier for😕

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, Maynard said:

I think Azeez Ojulari might be one to keep an eye on. 

good call here.  Already has 4 sacks on the season. Only 24 years old and supposedly could be available

https://buffalowdown.com/bills-next-major-trade-target-azeez-ojulari-01jaqm2n77rd

 

[Sojourner]

1 hour ago, Maynard said:

I think Azeez Ojulari might be one to keep an eye on. 

 

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

good call here.  Already has 4 sacks on the season. Only 24 years old and supposedly could be available

https://buffalowdown.com/bills-next-major-trade-target-azeez-ojulari-01jaqm2n77rd

 

Good call indeed. 
 

Fits the bill. Seems to be excelling more this year in a pass rotation role, similar to his rookie season. Shouldn’t break the bank for an extension unless they’re letting him walk and hoping to play the comp’ pick game with him. 

Edited October 23 by Sojourner

[Special K]

The Chargers seem to be underachieving......any chance they move Mack.

 

He is in the final year of his contract, and I believe the cap hit would be low.

 

He's probably not available, but that would be huge if the Bills could pull it off!!

[Nephilim17]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

good call here.  Already has 4 sacks on the season. Only 24 years old and supposedly could be available

https://buffalowdown.com/bills-next-major-trade-target-azeez-ojulari-01jaqm2n77rd

 

I don't know what's going on with him the the Giants but why doesn't he "fit" their plans? He's only 24 and has 4 sacks thus far. Why let him go?

[Solomon Grundy]

I personally think the Bills are fine on the EDGE. I feel that they should go ALL IN on a interior disruptor. Someone that can control the interior of the line of scrimmage. This position will put the Bills up against any team in the NFL including the Ravens and Chiefs. Can they lure Aaron Donald out of retirement 😎

[ndirish1978]

I want a big ol' 1 tech. I miss the old Daquan. Our run D will cost us big games as porous as it has been. If we shore up the run D we can stay in a 2 high shell, which helps the passing game. Budda Baker is great, but when we play BAL in the playoffs he's not solving our Henry problem. 

[ganesh]

8 hours ago, BlazinBill said:

I mean I hope Milano can- and if he can he will for sure- I guess I'm having flashbacks of AJ Klein missing his vacation as well as tackles and looking like almost anyone trying to defend an AI crossover. I just don't love or trust Spector to stay healthy. Bernard is solid for sure - love the guy but he seems fragile to me. I look at Williams as A great sub for Milano - just need some stable back up mike lb - so I think we are in alignment there.

 

Regarding my DT comment - it's again about depth to me- don't love how it looks when we loose a starter is all- and I feel like in the playoffs dline play is critical- need more push 

 

I love that Rapp is panning out but something about Hamlin just makes me uncomfortable and I would take a over the hill Hyde back there all day

Hamlin is the weakest link right now on this defense.... Teams with franchise QBs will know how to leverage this weak link.  Rodgers was toying with him last week. 

 

The second weakest link for this team is anyone who is replacing Bernard...He is irreplaceable. 

[Sierra Foothills]

16 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I mean, hasn't Sam Darnold been good? 

 

16 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Unbelievable. If Darnold is getting sacked an average of 3 a game then Stafford isn’t going to last long 😂

 

If you read the box scores and look at stats you might think Darnold is playing well.

 

13 hours ago, Jerboski said:

Kupp, Myles are definitely two I would look at 

 

 

9 hours ago, Maynard said:

I think Azeez Ojulari might be one to keep an eye on. 

 

 

[Sojourner]

8 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

I don't know what's going on with him the the Giants but why doesn't he "fit" their plans? He's only 24 and has 4 sacks thus far. Why let him go?

Kayvon Thibadeaux & Brian Burns would be my guess? The team stinks and need as much talent as they can get. He’s a FA next year so they might as well get a pick around the comp value if they can? 

[ren1701]

Actually, a run stuff linebacker that can go sisdeline to sideline like Milano would not hurt with all the injuries happening in that group 

[Carmel Corn]

14 hours ago, BlazinBill said:

I mean I hope Milano can- and if he can he will for sure- I guess I'm having flashbacks of AJ Klein missing his vacation as well as tackles and looking like almost anyone trying to defend an AI crossover. I just don't love or trust Spector to stay healthy. Bernard is solid for sure - love the guy but he seems fragile to me. I look at Williams as A great sub for Milano - just need some stable back up mike lb - so I think we are in alignment there.

 

Regarding my DT comment - it's again about depth to me- don't love how it looks when we loose a starter is all- and I feel like in the playoffs dline play is critical- need more push 

 

I love that Rapp is panning out but something about Hamlin just makes me uncomfortable and I would take a over the hill Hyde back there all day

 

My concern is that Bernard himself will not be able to stay healthy before a possible Milano return

[Gregg]

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[Kirby Jackson]

14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

The conversation wasn’t 2 firsts.  It was 2 firsts, a 2nd, and 4th and a 6th.  And then you said it may be more than that.  
 

I never said he wouldn’t get 2 firsts.  I said he wouldn’t get all of that, especially for a guy who needs surgery.  
 

And everyone scoffed at what the Bears gave up for the Mack trade.  

Fair. I’m not sure that he will get that (although he might). I’ve kind of been a little all over in terms of what he will get. It will be 2 firsts plus a little more. If I had to guess they will want a young, starter as a part of it too.

 

It doesn’t seem like something that the Bills would do, but maybe something like Rousseau and 2 firsts or Elam, 2 firsts, a 3rd & 5th? I don’t know the other teams well enough to know what they may include so this is my Bills example. The Bills would not have to make a decision on a big extension for Rousseau that may or may not be a good idea. The Browns would get 2 firsts and a young pass rusher with upside. With Elam, you’re buying low on a guy that has flashed and has talent. I still think other teams have bigger packages to offer. Garrett and Crosby are “all in” moves for someone. Bears? Lions? Jets 😂😂?

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Fair. I’m not sure that he will get that (although he might). I’ve kind of been a little all over in terms of what he will get. It will be 2 firsts plus a little more. If I had to guess they will want a young, starter as a part of it too.

 

It doesn’t seem like something that the Bills would do, but maybe something like Rousseau and 2 firsts or Elam, 2 firsts, a 3rd & 5th? I don’t know the other teams well enough to know what they may include so this is my Bills example. The Bills would not have to make a decision on a big extension for Rousseau that may or may not be a good idea. The Browns would get 2 firsts and a young pass rusher with upside. With Elam, you’re buying low on a guy that has flashed and has talent. I still think other teams have bigger packages to offer. Garrett and Crosby are “all in” moves for someone. Bears? Lions? Jets 😂😂?

 

Rousseau and 2 firsts?  That would be insane.  Rousseau and a 3rd.