Where's Cole Bishop?

[Jimmy Harris 69]

McD is going to stick with his low risk, low reward safety line up. It’s what he does…it’s all he does. Only something on the practice field in combination with failures(leading to loses) in games will give him the nudge to shuffle safeties after the kerfuffles in Baltimore and Houston.

[0017]

18 minutes ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

McD is going to stick with his low risk, low reward safety line up. It’s what he does…it’s all he does. Only something on the practice field in combination with failures(leading to loses) in games will give him the nudge to shuffle safeties after the kerfuffles in Baltimore and Houston.

I wish he’d realize special players win big games, offense and defense! I just fear we’re headed towards a close loss to the Chiefs in the playoffs again 😔 because McD is low risk!…….Unless it’s completely pointless like throwing the ball at the end of the Houston game from there own end zone 😂

[BigDingus]

On 10/17/2024 at 7:23 PM, VW82 said:

This kid is going to make some pro bowls and some people itt are going to eat some internet words. It's crazy that we still have doubters in this regime's ability to select and develop DBs.

 

But everyone said that about Elam too. I still haven't had to eat my words regarding him.

 

Not saying Bishop is as bad as Elam, but I don't think he's not seeing the field because the coaches want "low risk" and are "playing it safe." I just think he hasn't shown that he's clearly the better option yet, though his time will come.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

But everyone said that about Elam too. I still haven't had to eat my words regarding him.

 

Not saying Bishop is as bad as Elam, but I don't think he's not seeing the field because the coaches want "low risk" and are "playing it safe." I just think he hasn't shown that he's clearly the better option yet, though his time will come.

 

In fact when he was on the field he gave up 2 touchdowns. He was a much bigger factor in the Houston defeat than the play calling at the end.

[CSBill]

On 10/16/2024 at 12:25 PM, JP51 said:

Where is Edwards as well.... I dont understand this either... 

 

Gone.

 

What's hard to understand, he wasn't a good player. If he were, he would still be playing for the Bills.

11 hours ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

McD is going to stick with his low risk, low reward safety line up. It’s what he does…it’s all he does. Only something on the practice field in combination with failures(leading to loses) in games will give him the nudge to shuffle safeties after the kerfuffles in Baltimore and Houston.

 

And going high risk is better?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I’m not sure why Damar Hamlin angers some Bills fans. He’s a lot like Dane Jackson. He just does his job. He isn’t losing his job at this point. Injuries or leaving in free agency is the only way he comes off the field. 

Cole Bishop will have a great opportunity to start in year 2. He will get some valuable reps towards the end of the season.

Let them develop him. They know what they’re doing.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

6 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

But everyone said that about Elam too. I still haven't had to eat my words regarding him.

 

Not saying Bishop is as bad as Elam, but I don't think he's not seeing the field because the coaches want "low risk" and are "playing it safe." I just think he hasn't shown that he's clearly the better option yet, though his time will come.

Elam has never played bad though except a couple plays in the Steelers game right before he intercepted pass in the end zone 

Bishop looked completely lost in the Texans game

[TheBeaneBandit]

5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Elam has never played bad though except a couple plays in the Steelers game right before he intercepted pass in the end zone 

Bishop looked completely lost in the Texans game

He had a horrendous game against Jacksonville in London but "supposedly" he was dealing with a foot injury at the time. Bishop was probably even worse vs the Texans. 

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not sure why Damar Hamlin angers some Bills fans. He’s a lot like Dane Jackson. He just does his job. He isn’t losing his job at this point. Injuries or leaving in free agency is the only way he comes off the field. 

Cole Bishop will have a great opportunity to start in year 2. He will get some valuable reps towards the end of the season.

Let them develop him. They know what they’re doing.

Dane was a liability at times. Especially on 3rd and long. Average player that McD seemed to love because he never gave up the big play. Sounds familiar to me but for all the wrong reasons. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I believe his future is to play strong safety, not FS, so he isn't really geared to replace Hamlin.  As been stated he missed much of training camp, so now not only are some asking him to start, but also now to jump over and play FS which very likely in the limited time he's practiced was at SS.  But hey why not.

 

Reading some of the responses, we probably shouldn't even have a user forum because no matter what is posted, the Beane/McD haters can somehow make this into it's all their fault, they suck! 

[FireChans]

15 hours ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

McD is going to stick with his low risk, low reward safety line up. It’s what he does…it’s all he does. Only something on the practice field in combination with failures(leading to loses) in games will give him the nudge to shuffle safeties after the kerfuffles in Baltimore and Houston.

Very fun to watch people slowly realize in real time that “low risk” is the basically the reason the position exists. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

47 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Dane was a liability at times. Especially on 3rd and long. Average player that McD seemed to love because he never gave up the big play. Sounds familiar to me but for all the wrong reasons. 

I don’t want your team that gives up the big play. You say that like it’s ok to give up the big play because Bishop is talented.

 

Bishop will be playing. Hamlin is a UFA. Bishop doesn’t have to start his rookie season.

[julian]

As long as Hamlin isn’t costing the team any games then I’m fine with him starting this year. Bishop will easily beat him out in training camp next year and be the starter here for many years.

[BananaB]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t want your team that gives up the big play. You say that like it’s ok to give up the big play because Bishop is talented.

 

Bishop will be playing. Hamlin is a UFA. Bishop doesn’t have to start his rookie season.

Kids in his first few games. It’s not gonna be perfect but it’s better for the team for him to reach his potential as soon as possible. He’s not doing it sitting on the bench. How is Damar gonna play when we in playoffs, most likely gonna be less effective against a better team. That ain’t a good thing when the Bills are trying to get to the Super Bowl. Last year against the Chiefs our O held the ball for almost 40 minutes and got out scored because McD chose the safe option at LBer. When we finally stopped them on third down the gave up on Klien and Dorian made the play

 

Rather see if a player with high potential can learn from his mistakes myself. That’s not gonna happen on the bench. I know this, Damars play ain’t getting better and he’ll get abused against better teams. 
 

And for all the people going on about TC, it’s ***** November, TC is irrelevant at this point. 

Edited Saturday at 05:03 PM by BananaB

[frostbitmic]

Injuries are a big deal on this Defense, Bishop will be forced into action before long. As of now Rapp and Hamlin are better.

 

With Edwards gone, is Bishop #3 or is he behind Cam Lewis ?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

24 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Kids in his first few games. It’s not gonna be perfect but it’s better for the team for him to reach his potential as soon as possible. He’s not doing it sitting on the bench. How is Damar gonna play when we in playoffs, most likely gonna be less effective against a better team. That ain’t a good thing when the Bills are trying to get to the Super Bowl. Last year against the Chiefs our O held the ball for almost 40 minutes and got out scored because McD chose the safe option at LBer. When we finally stopped them on third down the gave up on Klien and Dorian made the play

 

Rather see if a player with high potential can learn from his mistakes myself. That’s not gonna happen on the bench. I know this, Damars play ain’t getting better and he’ll get abused against better teams. 
 

And for all the people going on about TC, it’s ***** November, TC is irrelevant at this point. 

Bishop will play. I don’t understand your thought process here. Bishop hasn’t shown us any reason to force a move at safety. Partly due to his own injuries during camp and preseason. 
 

He will play but there is no need for the experiment. He’s learning every day. 

17 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Injuries are a big deal on this Defense, Bishop will be forced into action before long. As of now Rapp and Hamlin are better.

 

With Edwards gone, is Bishop #3 or is he behind Cam Lewis ?

Last year in dime looks Taylor Rapp played. This year it’s Cam Lewis. 
 

Cam Lewis is definitely the 3rd safety right now. Bishop only played vs Baltimore and Houston because Taron Johnson was hurt.

[colin]

i was really high on bishop, i'm pretty disappointed in him so far, but it's early and he's really athletic.  i hope he pulls it out

[Toyo321]

He will get his experience, but he is 2 years away from a starting role, at least.

[BananaB]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bishop will play. I don’t understand your thought process here. Bishop hasn’t shown us any reason to force a move at safety. Partly due to his own injuries during camp and preseason. 
 

He will play but there is no need for the experiment. He’s learning every day. 

Last year in dime looks Taylor Rapp played. This year it’s Cam Lewis. 
 

Cam Lewis is definitely the 3rd safety right now. Bishop only played vs Baltimore and Houston because Taron Johnson was hurt.

History has proven we stick with these avaerage players all season leaving potential on the bench we come up short in playoffs. Like I said, it’s best for this team for him to reach his full potential now. Not 3 years down the road. We ain’t getting good play at safety, don’t you want to improve our team? Rather take a step back now and then 2 steps forward heading into playoffs.

12 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

He will get his experience, but he is 2 years away from a starting role, at least.

Ok McD

[VW82]

13 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

But everyone said that about Elam too. I still haven't had to eat my words regarding him.

 

Not saying Bishop is as bad as Elam, but I don't think he's not seeing the field because the coaches want "low risk" and are "playing it safe." I just think he hasn't shown that he's clearly the better option yet, though his time will come.

 

I mean, good job pointing out the one time they missed  

 

Also, I'd argue reaching on a raw talent that ultimately struggled with zone concepts is different from bringing a surefire safety prospect along slowly in McD's defense which asks more of its safeties. Missing camp definitely set him back. So far, there isn't much to go on other than seeing Hamlin get attacked and wondering why McD won't pull the trigger. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the switch made during the bye, and until we see otherwise, I stand by my prediction that Bishop will be really good once he finds his sea legs in the defense.

Edited Saturday at 07:18 PM by VW82