MVS Released by Bills

[HurlyBurly51]

29 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive.  Yes he is guaranteed the money but if another team volunteers to give him some of it it can come off the bills books.  It depends on if the contract has. “ offset language”

 

Vs

Explanation

If a player with guaranteed money is cut, they are still owed that money. However, if they sign with a new team on a different deal, their old team is only responsible for a portion of the guaranteed money. The new team makes up the difference. 

Example

If a player has $4 million in guaranteed money left on their contract and signs with a new team on a $1 million deal, their old team is only responsible for $3 million.  

I haven't read anything about offset language.  I guess if there is the savings is still minimal, seeing as the guaranteed money was $2.25M, minus the prorated portion.  But when you're this close to the cap every little bit helps. 

 

Edit: after a little more research, Sportrac has his 2024 dead cap hit at $1.35M so I stand corrected.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 minute ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

I haven't read anything about offset language.  I guess if there is the savings is still minimal, seeing as the guaranteed money was $2.25M, minus the prorated portion.  But when you're this close to the cap every little bit helps. 

 

Edit: after a little more research, Sportrac has his 2024 dead cap hit at $1.35M so I stand corrected.

Yeah it could be 6-700k… whatever the min is for the rest of the year. 

Edited October 22 by Matt_In_NH

[HurlyBurly51]

38 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Yeah it could be 6-700k… whatever the min is for the rest of the year. 

I'm wondering how to interpret this sportrac info now.  If they say there's $1.35M dead cap hit this year, is that the remaining guaranteed portion of his contract after having paid him already for his time on the roster?  If that's the case, then no savings.  idk

[hondo in seattle]

Is he still unsigned?  We had him as one of just 5 wideouts on the 53 - nobody else wants him even on their PS?  

[HurlyBurly51]

33 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

Is he still unsigned?  We had him as one of just 5 wideouts on the 53 - nobody else wants him even on their PS?  

He signed with the Saints, and apparently 2 other teams were interested (Indy and Washington).

[ChevyVanMiller]

MVS went 3 catches on 3 targets for 109 yards and 2 TDs today for the Saints.

 

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/482444/marquez-valdes-scantling-finds-end-zone-twice-week-10.php

Edited November 11 by ChevyVanMiller

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

MVS went 3 catches on 3 targets for 109 yards and 2 TDs today for the Saints.

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/482444/marquez-valdes-scantling-finds-end-zone-twice-week-10.php

 

The first one he beat triple coverage deep to catch like a 45 yarder

[Jukester]

It’s just puzzling that the Bills couldn’t get him on the field and take shots down the field with this guy. 

[GoBills!]

He would have been our #2 today, crazy how a few weeks and injuries change the landscape. Maybe Josh didn’t have a good connection with him though. Good for him showing out today.

[90sBills]

He knows how to catch the ball? Who knew?!

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, Jukester said:

It’s just puzzling that the Bills couldn’t get him on the field and take shots down the field with this guy. 

 

Defenses play our offense a lot differently from how they play the Saints. Against the Saints they're playing closer to the LoS to make sure Kamara doesn't take over the game. Against us they are hanging back making sure Allen doesn't beat them deep... MVS couldn't produce with us for the same reason he couldn't produce with the Chiefs. He runs basically one route and it's the one route defenses are selling out to stop when they play Allen and Mahomes.

[Alphadawg7]

16 minutes ago, Jukester said:

It’s just puzzling that the Bills couldn’t get him on the field and take shots down the field with this guy. 

Josh missed him by a lot at least twice deep.  It’s not Josh’s strength.  

[Not at the table Karlos]

18 minutes ago, Jukester said:

It’s just puzzling that the Bills couldn’t get him on the field and take shots down the field with this guy. 

They did take shots. Josh missed him. 

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Defenses play our offense a lot differently from how they play the Saints. Against the Saints they're playing closer to the LoS to make sure Kamara doesn't take over the game. Against us they are hanging back making sure Allen doesn't beat them deep... MVS couldn't produce with us for the same reason he couldn't produce with the Chiefs. He runs basically one route and it's the one route defenses are selling out to stop when they play Allen and Mahomes.

He was getting open deep a decent amount. Josh would over throw him. 

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

They did take shots. Josh missed him. 

He was getting open deep a decent amount. Josh would over throw him. 

 

?

 

We dialed up one deep shot to him in week 1, that was it. Other than that he was a decoy pulling coverage vertically.

[Solomon Grundy]

56 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Josh missed him by a lot at least twice deep.  It’s not Josh’s strength.  

He seems to hit those shots better on the move. That throw to Knox is a prime example 

[Alphadawg7]

14 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

?

 

We dialed up one deep shot to him in week 1, that was it. Other than that he was a decoy pulling coverage vertically.

I know for a fact Josh missed him bad twice while running wide open downfield.  
 

Josh also missed a wide open Diggs many times last year deep too:  

 

Its not his strong suit

Edited November 11 by Alphadawg7

[Brand J]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I know for a fact Josh missed him bad twice while running wide open downfield.  
 

Josh also missed a wide open Diggs many times last year deep too:  

 

Its not his strong suit

I’d love to see a ranking on QB accuracy on throws that go for more than 40 air yards, because it feels to me that Josh is in the bottom third of the league. If that was a strong suit of his game he really would be the ultimate cheat code. Kincaid actually got injured on the wide open pass he had to dive for. 

[fan_in_tx]

Bring In former jet D Mims for a look.. Same speed and height better athleticism. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Funny how MVS learned a new playbook in 2-weeks but local media is still making the injury excuse for Curtis Samuel. 
 

Sal Capaccio is telling you everyday about “trust” and “assignments”.

 

The Bills swapped Valdez-Scantling who has made plays in the Super Bowl for Jalen Virgil. 
 

How does that look good on our FO or Coaching Staff? 
 

But hey, let’s keep 5 every season and bank on zero injuries. 

[MikePJ76]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Funny how MVS learned a new playbook in 2-weeks but local media is still making the injury excuse for Curtis Samuel. 
 

Sal Capaccio is telling you everyday about “trust” and “assignments”.

 

The Bills swapped Valdez-Scantling who has made plays in the Super Bowl for Jalen Virgil. 
 

How does that look good on our FO or Coaching Staff? 
 

But hey, let’s keep 5 every season and bank on zero injuries. 

Did you call WGR this morning and argue with Sal by any chance?

 

if so that was entertaining and all I could think was this guy on the air must post here since he is obsessed with WR.