MVS Released by Bills

[Utah John]

6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I wonder if he asked to be let go?

 

otherwise, I don’t like this move.

 

a depth LB would have made more sense IMO

He shows up in the playoffs.  Hoping we don’t have to face him 

Do you remember last year's playoffs when we had NO depth LBs and had to bring back Klein to face Mahoes and Kelce?

[QLBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, JBI$111 said:

Yes, meaning acquiring him in the offseason and not being able to figure out even in a small way how to use him this year.

Got ya and agree. But if Josh hits even one of the two deep balls it could have been a bit different story. Your overall point on his lack of use is fair as he didn’t get a bunch of targets.
But he was a late FA at a nominal cost. He may have asked for his outright release or possibly will go back to the practice squad? But likely he’s done as a Bill 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

I did not know that.

But I assume Beane can fire McDermott, as he is the GM?

 

No, Beane can not fire McDermott. 

Only Pegula could at the start, now with Pegula seeming to take a less active role and Kim out of the picture, it's possible that one of the high-up executives at OBD now has that power, unclear on that point.

[Kornfed]

MVS was needed to be a deep X threat...... Has the speed but maybe wasn't able to grasp the O nuances/concepts. Hell if I know but glad they picked up Cooper. Hopefully he can fit quickly.   ..

 

Edited October 16 by Kornfed

[Dr.Sack]

MVS 50/50 ball

Reid draws up a perfect play. 
Mahomes throws a perfect pass.

MVS is wide open.

[Dan Darragh]

8 hours ago, MPL said:

Will go back to KC, do mostly nothing all year, and then somehow go bananas in the playoffs. Seen this movie before. 

He'll be activated for the KC-Bills game and will run wild

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:

MVS 50/50 ball

Reid draws up a perfect play. 
Mahomes throws a perfect pass.

MVS is wide open.

MVS drops ball that hits his hands

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Meaning MVS? What pick ? He was 2.2 M against the cap, certainly worth the risk. He didn’t work out, but Josh missed him twice in long passes where he may have scored. One of multiple off season moves. Some work and don’t. 

I believe MVS was nursing injury for a good stretch of training camp. He simply did not get the chemistry with Allen.  

[Nitro]

MSV was a waste of time on the field.  His play bordered on the apathetic.  Glad he is gone. 

[billybrew1]

10 hours ago, bmur66 said:

Football decision. Not $.

Of course not, we have already paid him in full….

 

Oof! We’re paying for that one!

[JohnNord]

4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

No, Beane can not fire McDermott. 

Only Pegula could at the start, now with Pegula seeming to take a less active role and Kim out of the picture, it's possible that one of the high-up executives at OBD now has that power, unclear on that point.

With Sean, I’m positive it’s Terry’s call.   There’s no way that he lets someone else fire his head coach 

[davefan66]

8 hours ago, DapperCam said:

Do you think he'll get a tribute video and standing ovation when the Chiefs come to town?

Wouldn’t take too long to highlight all of his 2 catches!

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

No, Beane can not fire McDermott. 

Only Pegula could at the start, now with Pegula seeming to take a less active role and Kim out of the picture, it's possible that one of the high-up executives at OBD now has that power, unclear on that point.

 

I think ultimately only Terry could take the decision. He is so close to both guys I don't think there is any way he lets someone else fire them. If they get to the point where they think they need regime change (either HC, GM or both) it would have to be Terry's call. Possibly Pete Guelli as the guy running the business day to day would have some input but the way the Bills list their execs on the website I think it's telling that Beane, McDermott and Guelli are displayed on the same level. My guess is none of them have the power to fire the other. 

10 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Beane was desperate. I firmly believe He was forced to trade Diggs by McDermott and he was desperate to add any talent he could.

 

If there was anyone in the organisation lobbying for Diggs to be moved (other than Diggs himself of course) it was Allen, not McDermott. 

[machine gun kelly]

He was a waste of space.  He did nothing so don’t want the depth.  He saw lots of time on the field, but did literally nothing.  He wasn’t expensive so Beane took a shot. It’s a numbers game on a tight cap strapped team.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think ultimately only Terry could take the decision. He is so close to both guys I don't think there is any way he lets someone else fire them. If they get to the point where they think they need regime change (either HC, GM or both) it would have to be Terry's call. Possibly Pete Guelli as the guy running the business day to day would have some input but the way the Bills list their execs on the website I think it's telling that Beane, McDermott and Guelli are displayed on the same level. My guess is none of them have the power to fire the other. 

 

If there was anyone in the organisation lobbying for Diggs to be moved (other than Diggs himself of course) it was Allen, not McDermott. 

While I fully agree Beane does not have the power to flat out fire Sean, he does have Terry's ear and trust. Terry is absolutely the head of the franchise, but I like to think of Beane as the "neck" and I don't think it would take much for him to turn the head in the direction he wants should he feel it's warranted.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

8 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

No, Beane can not fire McDermott. 

Only Pegula could at the start, now with Pegula seeming to take a less active role and Kim out of the picture, it's possible that one of the high-up executives at OBD now has that power, unclear on that point.

Correct both Beane and McDermott report directly to ownership

[GunnerBill]

57 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

While I fully agree Beane does not have the power to flat out fire Sean, he does have Terry's ear and trust. Terry is absolutely the head of the franchise, but I like to think of Beane as the "neck" and I don't think it would take much for him to turn the head in the direction he wants should he feel it's warranted.

 

But so does Sean. That is the thing. Neither of the two people I had contacts with on staff are still in the building but I know when they were their take was always that Sean was the more powerful of the two internally, though they both report to Terry. Also they are, and have been from the start joined at the hip. Even in the celebrating the Pegulas thing Terry talks about how important it was to find a GM who "had worked with Sean before."

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think ultimately only Terry could take the decision. He is so close to both guys I don't think there is any way he lets someone else fire them. If they get to the point where they think they need regime change (either HC, GM or both) it would have to be Terry's call. Possibly Pete Guelli as the guy running the business day to day would have some input but the way the Bills list their execs on the website I think it's telling that Beane, McDermott and Guelli are displayed on the same level. My guess is none of them have the power to fire the other. 

 

If there was anyone in the organisation lobbying for Diggs to be moved (other than Diggs himself of course) it was Allen, not McDermott. 

There's a difference between being for something and not being against it, and my suspicion (based on anecdotal information) is that McD was not against Diggs's departure.  But I can't speak to whether he was affirmatively for such a move.  

[Chandler#81]

12 hours ago, Beck Water said:

I agree with your overall point that it doesn't seem likely that McDermott "forced", or even lobbied hard, for Beane to trade Diggs.

 

Does “Very concerned..” ring a bell from Mandatory OTAs? Idk, just because behind the scenes discussions don’t get press releases doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some of you are creating circumstances there’s no way to prove.

[clayboy54]

26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Does “Very concerned..” ring a bell from Mandatory OTAs? Idk, just because behind the scenes discussions don’t get press releases doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Some of you are creating circumstances there’s no way to prove.

On Monday night, Sean said he was "concerned" about Bass. What should we expect next?