Savage Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. 13 1 2 3 5 8 2 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. Good point. That said, he is an excellent backup safety. He just doesn’t have the speed or ball skills to really be a starter. 6 2 26 Quote
Savage Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Good point. That said, he is an excellent backup safety. He just doesn’t have the speed or ball skills to really be a starter. Agreed 1 Quote
mushypeaches Posted October 15 Posted October 15 For every one tackle that he's in great position for and brings the guy down solidly, there's nine more where he's slow getting to the ball, takes a bad angle or just flat out misses. Let's not pretend that Hamlin is anything more than he is - a depth guy who's just decent enough not to hurt you too much, and will never be good enough to be an impact player 3 1 14 1 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 15 Posted October 15 He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp 8 3 3 2 1 3 Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) Would he be effective at all at big nickel? Edited October 15 by WEATHER DOT COM Quote
Brand J Posted October 15 Posted October 15 What I see when I watch Hamlin is a player who’s afraid to make mistakes. He’d rather backpedal to open space than jump the route happening in front of him because that space is “where he was supposed to be.” I don’t need him to be a playmaker, but he needs to read the field better. Understand what’s happening in and around his zone. He’d rather arrive late to a tackle than shoot a gap and miss the tackle. He needs to be upgraded ASAP. 3 1 Quote
Nester Posted October 15 Posted October 15 He single handedly destroyed the Dolphins Season, our biggest threat for the Division title. He should get extended on that basis alone. 4 1 Quote
Savage Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Brand J said: What I see when I watch Hamlin is a player who’s afraid to make mistakes. He’d rather backpedal to open space than jump the route happening in front of him because that space is “where he was supposed to be.” I don’t need him to be a playmaker, but he needs to read the field better. Understand what’s happening in and around his zone. He’d rather arrive late to a tackle than shoot a gap and miss the tackle. He needs to be upgraded ASAP. He knows his shortcomings.I give him credit for that. he rarely blows a tackle. I credit him for that. look at much bigger, faster players that whiff on tackles because they rely on speed and size, and don’t know how to tackle. Quote
JohninMinn. Posted October 15 Posted October 15 17 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. He'll always be a marginal safety with a feelgood story 2 2 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 19 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. His 2 biggest shortcomings are; Lacks speed and can’t shed a block. 1 1 Quote
Pasaluki Posted October 15 Posted October 15 He does take bad angles and he has had some good plays. When he trusts what he sees and doesn't hesitate he can have a few good moments. I notice he typically does better in red zone situations. Honestly not every team can afford to be great or even good at all positions. He's a solid depth player and that he's still starting is an indictment of what they have at the position currently. Is Cole Bishop planning on doing anything? Mike Edwards? Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 15 Posted October 15 31 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. The truth on Hamlin is probably something close to this: He's not as good as they guy he replaced but he's not as bad as people make him out to be here. In reality, he's likely hovering in the "league average" zone. 5 2 1 Quote
May Day 10 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I have never seen an NFL player that small who runs so slow. 1 Quote
sven233 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 It's a great story. He's a great person and I am so happy he gets to do what he loves. But the fact is, he should not be a starter for this team. He is slow and takes terrible angles. He hesitates because you can tell he is thinking about everything and it causes him to hesitate and that gets him out of position. I have no problem with him being on the team as a depth piece. But he should not be in the starting lineup. Just not good enough. 4 1 Quote
Simon Posted October 15 Posted October 15 40 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp He's shockingly slow of foot for an NFL DB. I respect him as a gamer, but he is absolutely the most limited athlete running around the secondary for either team during nearly every play. 6 2 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 15 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Simon said: He's shockingly slow of foot for an NFL DB. I respect him as a gamer, but he is absolutely the most limited athlete running around the secondary for either team during nearly every play. That’s fair. I’m not saying he’s some perfect player. But I can’t think of a single play where he hasn’t been in position to make a play. Low end starter safety. In year when we are strapped to the cap, sometimes that’s what you get Quote
Figster Posted October 15 Posted October 15 49 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp I'm sure McD would agree, the only opinion that really matters... Quote
Sweats Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I thought this thread was going to be how we were packaging Hamlin and Bass for a new fry-o-lator in the concession stand Quote
billsfan89 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I’m always going to defer to McD when it comes to the secondary. If McD thinks he can start then I think he’s doing fine. To my eye test he looks ok, very Levi Wallace esq where he just looks like a solid player out there but not a dynamic playmaker 2 1 Quote
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