Savage Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. 6 2 1 2 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. Good point. That said, he is an excellent backup safety. He just doesn’t have the speed or ball skills to really be a starter. 3 1 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Good point. That said, he is an excellent backup safety. He just doesn’t have the speed or ball skills to really be a starter. Agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago For every one tackle that he's in great position for and brings the guy down solidly, there's nine more where he's slow getting to the ball, takes a bad angle or just flat out misses. Let's not pretend that Hamlin is anything more than he is - a depth guy who's just decent enough not to hurt you too much, and will never be good enough to be an impact player 1 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp 8 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Would he be effective at all at big nickel? Edited 5 hours ago by WEATHER DOT COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago What I see when I watch Hamlin is a player who’s afraid to make mistakes. He’d rather backpedal to open space than jump the route happening in front of him because that space is “where he was supposed to be.” I don’t need him to be a playmaker, but he needs to read the field better. Understand what’s happening in and around his zone. He’d rather arrive late to a tackle than shoot a gap and miss the tackle. He needs to be upgraded ASAP. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago He single handedly destroyed the Dolphins Season, our biggest threat for the Division title. He should get extended on that basis alone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brand J said: What I see when I watch Hamlin is a player who’s afraid to make mistakes. He’d rather backpedal to open space than jump the route happening in front of him because that space is “where he was supposed to be.” I don’t need him to be a playmaker, but he needs to read the field better. Understand what’s happening in and around his zone. He’d rather arrive late to a tackle than shoot a gap and miss the tackle. He needs to be upgraded ASAP. He knows his shortcomings.I give him credit for that. he rarely blows a tackle. I credit him for that. look at much bigger, faster players that whiff on tackles because they rely on speed and size, and don’t know how to tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. He'll always be a marginal safety with a feelgood story 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. His 2 biggest shortcomings are; Lacks speed and can’t shed a block. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago He does take bad angles and he has had some good plays. When he trusts what he sees and doesn't hesitate he can have a few good moments. I notice he typically does better in red zone situations. Honestly not every team can afford to be great or even good at all positions. He's a solid depth player and that he's still starting is an indictment of what they have at the position currently. Is Cole Bishop planning on doing anything? Mike Edwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. The truth on Hamlin is probably something close to this: He's not as good as they guy he replaced but he's not as bad as people make him out to be here. In reality, he's likely hovering in the "league average" zone. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I have never seen an NFL player that small who runs so slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago It's a great story. He's a great person and I am so happy he gets to do what he loves. But the fact is, he should not be a starter for this team. He is slow and takes terrible angles. He hesitates because you can tell he is thinking about everything and it causes him to hesitate and that gets him out of position. I have no problem with him being on the team as a depth piece. But he should not be in the starting lineup. Just not good enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp He's shockingly slow of foot for an NFL DB. I respect him as a gamer, but he is absolutely the most limited athlete running around the secondary for either team during nearly every play. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Simon said: He's shockingly slow of foot for an NFL DB. I respect him as a gamer, but he is absolutely the most limited athlete running around the secondary for either team during nearly every play. That’s fair. I’m not saying he’s some perfect player. But I can’t think of a single play where he hasn’t been in position to make a play. Low end starter safety. In year when we are strapped to the cap, sometimes that’s what you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp I'm sure McD would agree, the only opinion that really matters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I thought this thread was going to be how we were packaging Hamlin and Bass for a new fry-o-lator in the concession stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I’m always going to defer to McD when it comes to the secondary. If McD thinks he can start then I think he’s doing fine. To my eye test he looks ok, very Levi Wallace esq where he just looks like a solid player out there but not a dynamic playmaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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