Buffalo trades for Amari Cooper! (for a 3rd rnd pick and a late round swap)

[TheWei44]

1 minute ago, SteveFreeman22 said:

If you think Cleveland to Buffalo is a long drive, I'm thinking you haven't taken many long drives in your life.

It's only long when the lake effect snow is in full force!

[Nephilim17]

Does a comp pick only depend on what the player signs for, or what he was paid the last contract?

Can someone offer a little more insight into the potential comp pick for Cooper? I read somewhere in the thread a 5th. Is that the ceiling or could it potentially be higher?

[kkim0904]

15 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Some could have been caught, some are the result of Watson

 

 

I am impressed by how he gets open.  But except for one, they are all bad drops by Amari.

[RobbRiddick]

 

[BillsFanForever19]

On 10/15/2024 at 2:17 PM, MikePJ76 said:

OMG

 

They sent a 3rd for Cooper.  This is beyond terrible.

 

Dallas sent cooper two years ago to Cleveland for a fifth.

 

I keep seeing this being talked about.

 

The difference in price comes from Cleveland taking him on Dallas's 5 year, 100m contract and taking that off their books. 

 

Meanwhile in our trade, Cleveland paid him 20m this year to give him to us at 800k. 

 

When you take a massive amount of money off the trading teams books and take it on yourself, you're going to pay less on compensation. If the trading team has taken on the money and you're paying close to nothing, youre going to pay more in compensation. 

 

Simple as that.

[Aussie Joe]

11 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

Does a comp pick only depend on what the player signs for, or what he was paid the last contract?

Can someone offer a little more insight into the potential comp pick for Cooper? I read somewhere in the thread a 5th. Is that the ceiling or could it potentially be higher?

It’s based on the new deal that he signs …

 

For some comparison… Gabe Davis new deal is $13m a year … and the talk is that the Bills will get a 4th …of course as we found out last year … until the NFL awards the picks no one can be really sure 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Aussie Joe

[Draconator]

Updated

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

 

[starrymessenger]

22 minutes ago, Billl said:

Diggs’s current age has nothing to do with the question, though.  Josh played with him in his absolute prime, so the comparison is 27 year old Stef who was a top 5 WR versus 30 year old Coop.  

 

Even when Cooper was in his prime, there was not one poster on this board who would have put Cooper on the same level as Diggs.  Just looking at their Approximate Value ratings from Pro Football Reference, Cooper’s career best was 11.  Diggs has ranged from 12-15 the past 5 seasons.  Cooper has had a great career, and he’s going to help the Bills, but if he were currently better than prime Diggs, he’d have cost a whole lot more than $800k and a late third round pick.  

 

 

 

 

 

Who said a 30 year old Cooper was better than a 27 year old Diggs in his career year? And if age has nothing to do with it why reference Cooper as a "30 year old".

The question is who is better now. Now they are pretty much equivalent players (except one is cheaper and less likely to be a problem).
And do you think QB play is relevant in evaluating WR's production? If you were a wideout wouldn't you rather play with Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen, both outstanding QBs, than with the worst QB in football and/or an over the hill statuesque Joe Flacco?

[PrimeTime101]

 

[HansLanda]

Cooper Interview, not sure it was posted...

 

 

[RobbRiddick]

 

[aristocrat]

 

[RobbRiddick]

7 minutes ago, HansLanda said:

Cooper Interview, not sure it was posted...

 

 

 

Seems like a nice down to earth guy, definitely can't imagine him flossing his teeth on the sideline.

 

I was hoping he'd come out in a yellow puffer jacket but that may have been expecting too much.

[mannc]

25 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Who said a 30 year old Cooper was better than a 27 year old Diggs in his career year? And if age has nothing to do with it why reference Cooper as a "30 year old".

The question is who is better now. Now they are pretty much equivalent players (except one is cheaper and less likely to be a problem).
And do you think QB play is relevant in evaluating WR's production? If you were a wideout wouldn't you rather play with Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen, both outstanding QBs, than with the worst QB in football and/or an over the hill statuesque Joe Flacco?

Until the Brown's playoff game, Flacco played at a really high level last year...that's a big reason why Cooper had a career year.  

[starrymessenger]

9 minutes ago, mannc said:

Until the Brown's playoff game, Flacco played at a really high level last year...that's a big reason why Cooper had a career year.  

Yeah Flacco stood up pretty well. And yes Cooper had a good year and a 250 yard game with him I think. Bodes well for what he ought to be able to do with Allen.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Diggs’s current age has nothing to do with the question, though.  Josh played with him in his absolute prime, so the comparison is 27 year old Stef who was a top 5 WR versus 30 year old Coop.  

 

Even when Cooper was in his prime, there was not one poster on this board who would have put Cooper on the same level as Diggs.  Just looking at their Approximate Value ratings from Pro Football Reference, Cooper’s career best was 11.  Diggs has ranged from 12-15 the past 5 seasons.  Cooper has had a great career, and he’s going to help the Bills, but if he were currently better than prime Diggs, he’d have cost a whole lot more than $800k and a late third round pick.  

 

 

 

 

 

He won't need to be Diggs in his prime.  What he brings is a #1 WR who will command attention and open things up for other receivers and the running game. 

[Danger Mouse]

Love his interview. Very likeable man.

[HansLanda]

4 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said:

Love his interview. Very likeable man.

 

That is a professional who has been through a ton in his career and has been in front of the media for half his life. He made several mentions of introspective thoughts during the "drive"  up the 90. I think he is going to go OFF with Josh. 

[Billl]

1 hour ago, starrymessenger said:

Who said a 30 year old Cooper was better than a 27 year old Diggs in his career year? And if age has nothing to do with it why reference Cooper as a "30 year old".

The question was literally whether or not Amari Cooper will be the best WR Josh has ever played with.  Of course age matters.  If Buffalo signs Jerry Rice tomorrow, are you going to say he’s better than Cooper?

 

45 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He won't need to be Diggs in his prime.  What he brings is a #1 WR who will command attention and open things up for other receivers and the running game. 

Totally agree about not needing to be Diggs in his prime in order to make a huge difference.  We’ll see if he’s a #1 WR, but he’s clearly better than anything Josh has had this year.

Edited 3 minutes ago by Billl