Big Turk Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: IR him with a magical "calf issue" which is gonna cost him the year They still have to pay him. Quote
turbo044 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 the GW FG was a decent kick, actually. The wind was blowing strongly to Bass's left, so he had to angle it to the right. It wasn't as close to the right upright as the straight on highlight makes it look. If anything, the kick was low and he was lucky it wasn't blocked. Just as bad as the missed kicks were, was his last kickoff with 3 minutes left. He kicked off from the 50 (NYJ personal foul on previous play) and presumably the Bills wanted him to kick it to the 5 yard line or so, so they could pin them back deep. He kicked it 5 yards into the end zone. Bass was holding his head in disgust and Mcdermott was screaming at him (could see this in the stadium). I would expect a kicker will be signed to the PS Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Crazy Idea here but how hard would it be to trade the guy for like Eddie Pinero? Give them Bass and a pick. Dafuk do the panthers care? They have to protect a kicker in a season that’s DOA…. 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 15 Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The guy can’t make kicks. What is hard to understand about that not being acceptable He can and has made kicks. You are making an exaggerated claim, like due to being in your feelings, and not thinking this through. He hasn't been good. But we take a big hit for cutting him, and there isn't a clear upgrade path where the guy we bring in is better to justify the financial pain. Quote
WeckMonster Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Kickers are so good now I’m confident there are league min salary dudes off the street better than Bass. It destroys team morale to trot out someone who everyone knows has zero business being on the team. “Everyone needs to compete and meet a standard… except Bass”. That doesn’t fly. 1 Quote
paulmm3 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I don't think the organization is going to blame Bass too much for last night since Zuerlein also missed two easy kicks last night. I agree that Bass sucks and I'd like a new kicker though, don't get me wrong. Quote
What a Tuel Posted October 15 Posted October 15 24 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The guy can’t make kicks. What is hard to understand about that not being acceptable Seems to me he's made 9/12 FGs and 18/20 XPA - counting blocks/tips. So he can in fact make a kick. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 20 minutes ago, Big Turk said: They still have to pay him. I know, but wouldn't result in 7 mil of dead cap Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: Seems to me he's made 9/12 FGs and 18/20 XPA - counting blocks/tips. So he can in fact make a kick. 9/12 is 75% which puts him at 28th in the league 1 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, GoBills808 said: 9/12 is 75% which puts him at 28th in the league I didnt say it was good, but he can make kicks. You guys act like theres a 5% chance he will make a kick. As compared to the other top kickers, sure he is less accurate, but we are talking 1-2 kicks over 6 games. The amount of angst the fans have over this is crazy. Quote
buffblue Posted October 15 Posted October 15 24 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Bass's 4.4mm active cap hit turns into 4.3mm dead cap if we release him saving 100k against the cap for the current season. We'd also eat a 3.1mm dead cap for 2025 With just over 3mm in available cap space, can we find a better kicker that'll sign in the 2-3mm range? The answer is probably yes. It doesn't need to be a guy that kicked in the NFL before. The Cowboys signed a professional soccer player that spent 20 games in the USFL and he's one of the most accurate kickers in NFL history (with a small sample size to be sure). Bass has been a disaster since the Giants game last year. He cost us multiple games last year and will cost us games this season, it's only a matter of time. The answer is almost certainly yes. You'd be hard pressed to not do better, whether it be someone with experience or a player who has never kicked a ball in the NFL. Bass is one of the worst kickers I can recall seeing. He's been toast and things are not salvageable. Bring in somebody, anybody before he predictably costs us our season. 1 Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Does anybody know where Bass lives? Time to give him a "Booth Lustig" on his way home, because he deserves it. 🙂 1 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Does anybody know where Bass lives? Time to give him a "Booth Lustig" on his way home, because he deserves it. 🙂 Not even funny because if his address was ever made public, there would be some mafia ahole, who would attempt something like this. Edited October 15 by LabattBlue 1 Quote
Mango Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Brandon said: You have to eat the dead cap and find a replacement that's an upgrade and both of those things are going to be a problem at this stage of the season. You can't just say "You have to". 1. This isn't a spend issue. It is a cap room issue and there is no room. 2. I don't think there is anybody who falls into the category of "obviously better". But if you just speak in generalities I guess anything is possible. Just now, LabattBlue said: Not even funny because if his address was ever made public, there would be some mafia #######, who would attempt something like this. Didn't Bills fans trash Leodis McKelvin's yard after he fumbled a kick return against the Pats. Really sad and embarrassing moment for Bills "fans". 1 Quote
rockpile Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: We can’t fire him. But we could rough him up. Ah, the Booth Lustig move. Youngsters can google it. 😆 1 Quote
KellyToTasker Posted October 15 Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I didnt say it was good, but he can make kicks. You guys act like theres a 5% chance he will make a kick. As compared to the other top kickers, sure he is less accurate, but we are talking 1-2 kicks over 6 games. The amount of angst the fans have over this is crazy. Take 13 seconds for example. Do you believe Bass makes the kick that Butker made to send it to OT? Bass may have numbers that suggest he is able to make a kick, but zero confidence he’ll make a gotta have it kick. He’s destined to be Scott Norwood in the SB. They’re in a tough spot and probably stuck with him, for now. Hoping it finds his way, we need him too. 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted October 15 Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, Mango said: Didn't Bills fans trash Leodis McKelvin's yard after he fumbled a kick return against the Pats. Really sad and embarrassing moment for Bills "fans". My point exactly. The most diehard mafia 20 & 30 somethings aren’t all mensa candidates. 1 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted October 15 Posted October 15 (edited) No more FG's outside of 37 yards. Just play 4 down football. Go for 2 every time. Not kidding. Edited October 15 by Bookie Man 2 Quote
Mango Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, KellyToTasker said: Take 13 seconds for example. Do you believe Bass makes the kick that Butker made to send it to OT? Bass may have numbers that suggest he is able to make a kick, but zero confidence he’ll make a gotta have it kick. He’s destined to be Scott Norwood in the SB. They’re in a tough spot and probably stuck with him, for now. Hoping it finds his way, we need him too. Bass isn't Butker. Butker is one of the best kickers in the league. No argument there. Should the Bills look to every position in which they don't have an Allen, Butker, Gardner, Justin Jefferson? Absolutely. Should they cut a guy who is not been very good mid season to replace him with somebody worse because they aren't Harrison Butker? No. 1 Quote
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