Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Samuel can not be any worse than Mack Hollins out wide. He has done it plenty in his career at least he has speed. Tired of Mack’s slow ass out there. Let Samuel run some routes please! I’d even give Scantling more reps out there. I know Hollins is a + run blocker but Allen needs a receiver that get get open. 4 4 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 15 Posted October 15 He ran a 4.31!! Make it make sense 3 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Samuel can not be any worse than Mack Hollins out wide. He has done it plenty in his career at least he has speed. Tired of Mack’s slow ass out there. Let Samuel run some routes please! I’d even give Scantling more reps out there. I know Hollins is a + run blocker but Allen needs a receiver that get get open. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 15 Posted October 15 They are never taking Hollins off the field. It seemed like Samuel and Shakir were rotating in and out. So Joe Brady can’t get both of those guys on the field together it seems. Thats not good. 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: They are never taking Hollins off the field. It seemed like Samuel and Shakir were rotating in and out. So Joe Brady can’t get both of those guys on the field together it seems. Thats not good. Shakir wasn't moving well to me. Think he was toughing it out a bit to play. Hence the pitch count. Samuel just looks really bad to me. He looks slooooow. And while the throw in the endzone he started in the backfield he showed the leverage and body control issues he has outside when the throw went to him. 4 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 15 Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Shakir wasn't moving well to me. Think he was toughing it out a bit to play. Hence the pitch count. Samuel just looks really bad to me. He looks slooooow. And while the throw in the endzone he started in the backfield he showed the leverage and body control issues he has outside when the throw went to him. Samuel 2 years ago on that crosser gets 15 yards and maybe more in space. Instead he gets caught from behind with a step and tackled short of the sticks. not sure if he’s hurt or shot. But I don’t think that Samuel is coming back 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Samuel 2 years ago on that crosser gets 15 yards and maybe more in space. Instead he gets caught from behind with a step and tackled short of the sticks. not sure if he’s hurt or shot. But I don’t think that Samuel is coming back I'm not giving up hope yet in case he's protecting a toe, but he is absolutely a half step short of the guy we've seen throughout his career. 4 4 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, Simon said: I'm not giving up hope yet in case he's protecting a toe, but he is absolutely a half step short of the guy we've seen throughout his career. I said it before the game to @Chaos. I still have hope he is not fully healthy but its blind hope right now. Not got much evidence to support it. Quote
NewEra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They are never taking Hollins off the field. It seemed like Samuel and Shakir were rotating in and out. So Joe Brady can’t get both of those guys on the field together it seems. Thats not good. I thought it was evident Shakir isn’t nearly 💯. I wonder if he sits next week. Tennessee low key has had a solid pass d. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Just now, Simon said: I'm not giving up hope yet in case he's protecting a toe, but he is absolutely a half step short of the guy we've seen throughout his career. I guess if he’s still protecting a toe now, with barely playing, I don’t know if he’s going to get that pop back this season. Next year certainly possible. Turf toe feels like one of those injuries like the soft tissues (hamstrings) that linger all year. 1 1 Quote
NewEra Posted October 15 Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Samuel 2 years ago on that crosser gets 15 yards and maybe more in space. Instead he gets caught from behind with a step and tackled short of the sticks. not sure if he’s hurt or shot. But I don’t think that Samuel is coming back I don’t know how we get rid of him. 15m gtd Quote
Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 (edited) Samuel did not complete the catch clean that’s why he looked slow and why he didn’t pull away on the crosser he was bumbling the ball and trying to secure it. He had two strides on the defender so don’t tell me he’s slow Edited October 15 by Kingston Bills Fan 2 Quote
Nelius Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Mind blowing, was yelling about this. I don’t get why we don’t use him as an actual receiver? I don’t know, his overall activity seemed to see a slight uptick tonight so maybe we’ll see it eventually. Still the most frustrating aspect of this offense imo 1 2 Quote
HomeTeam Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I actually was a big fan of his in Carolina. I remember a while back when we had joint practice with the Panthers in pre season and he looked amazing. He did make a few plays tonight, so I'm hopeful. 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 15 Posted October 15 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: I thought it was evident Shakir isn’t nearly 💯. I wonder if he sits next week. Tennessee low key has had a solid pass d. Yeah. But what I’m saying is it seems rare to see Shakir and Samuel on the field together. 2 Quote
Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 If we aren’t going to use Samuel on the outside bite the bullet and make a trade for DK Metcalf who wants out of Seattle he’s only 26 and better long term then any other option. But would love to see what Samuel on the outside and Shakir in the slot looks like. We need our top two receivers on the field at the same time 2 Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Like Bass, I can’t trust either anymore! They are substandard WRs, incapable of running proper routes or catching footballs! Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 9 hours ago, NewEra said: I don’t know how we get rid of him. 15m gtd I bet he even gives back the money before they whack him! 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Samuel can not be any worse than Mack Hollins out wide. He has done it plenty in his career at least he has speed. Tired of Mack’s slow ass out there. Let Samuel run some routes please! I’d even give Scantling more reps out there. I know Hollins is a + run blocker but Allen needs a receiver that get get open. It might come to a surprise to people that the QB and WRs are all this gelling together. I don’t think they all will be on the same page until another 4-5 weeks. I am choosing to give them time. Personally, I don’t mind a balanced passing attack. It makes it hard for defenses to know who to key in on. (Here’s a tongue twister. Key in on Keon) Quote
warrior9 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 I would really like to see them utilize Coleman more on motion, in the slot, on drags, etc. His best attribute seems to be his run after catch ability and we're just not getting him the ball with running room enough. He's a big body and should be used in a slot a little more. Maybe his route tree and routes still need some help so they're developing it but being able to have Kincaid and Coleman in the middle of the field will open up a lot and give him more RAC chances. I think that's one of Brady's biggest failures, thus far. If he is having trouble getting off the ball, put him in the slot where he can't be pressed. I don't see the get off as a major issue yet but there has been some instances where he was locked down, completely. We need to move him around. 2 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Samuel can not be any worse than Mack Hollins out wide. He has done it plenty in his career at least he has speed. Tired of Mack’s slow ass out there. Let Samuel run some routes please! I’d even give Scantling more reps out there. I know Hollins is a + run blocker but Allen needs a receiver that get get open. Any worse? Samuel is a legit, proven good WR. Quote
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