So about the refs tonight UPDATE: Rams game discussion on page 14

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I didn't see anything egregious outside of the obvious missed facemask and the last catch not being reviewed. Everything else seemed like call that "could go either way" so to speak. 

I remember a replay where Romo basically started to highlight the play of a Chiefs linemen then it got awkward and he quickly moved on as there was just a blatant hold that was ignored.

[DJB]

Refs once again doing everything they can to let KC win

 

When it’s every fan base saying the same thing it’s so obvious what’s going on 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I am watching Bengals and Chargers- our officials were much better, these guys suck

[Ya Digg?]

1 hour ago, MPT said:

Couple obvious pick plays, hands to the face on the Chiefs' OL all night long. Typical holding on offense and defense. Missed facemask that everyone watching could see from a mile away and the opposite side of the camera. An obvious non-catch that could have turned the game.

 

This was just another horrendous officiating night. The Chiefs will get away with 90% of their penalties and we'll be grateful they called 10%.

I actually thought the refs were decent today. Let’s be honest, the Bills definitely benefited from some non-calls as well. Hollins should’ve been called for a pick on Samuel’s touchdown for one thing. That being said, I’ll take it and the win, go Bills!!

[PayDaBill$]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

The only reason it didn't have a material impact on the game is because they literally called a penalty on the next ***** play that was an easy first down because of the yards that catch gave them. So the refs interrupted the game anyway.

Spot on no penalty on that play & KC likely goes on to score because of the no call on the drop. The drop wasn’t controversial. He dropped the F’in ball. Then we’re talking a lot differently….

Edited November 18 by PayDaBill$

[BobbyC81]

6 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I’m not sure if it’s “schaup”or “the bulldog”, but when they were talking about that catch that wasn’t reviewed at the end, whoever it was is a total idiot and said he had control of the ball. Seriously get off the radio if you’re that stupid. 
Those two middle-aged porn obsessed losers with SDE are so unlistenable it’s not even funny.

Yet, you listened to them.

[Matt_In_NH]

7 hours ago, DJB said:

Refs once again doing everything they can to let KC win

 

When it’s every fan base saying the same thing it’s so obvious what’s going on 

Yeah fans are scientifically proven to not have any biases. 

[BRH]

13 hours ago, Warcodered said:

The only reason it didn't have a material impact on the game is because they literally called a penalty on the next ***** play that was an easy first down because of the yards that catch gave them. So the refs interrupted the game anyway.

 

It was hard to shake the feeling last night that New York had one script and Land Clark's crew had another.  I almost feel like Clark's crew was waiting for the booth to buzz down -- expected it, even -- and when it didn't happen, they called the penalty to even things out ... probably to the consternation of New York.  I'm fine with it.

[Beck Water]

14 hours ago, dickleyjones said:

it probably hit the ground but i don't remember seeing anything definitive. they don't overturn on "we think so".

 

They were showing replays during the time-out and it looked pretty definitive.

[stevewin]

13 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

if they had reviewed that last catch, we would have been there all day, odds are that they say there isn’t enough evidence, and all the energy in that stadium and on D is gone. (Maybe I would be feeling a different way if it had a material impact on the game though?)

Pretty sure (if done properly) it would have been an immediate 'eye in the sky' review - immediate reversal and not involving the refs on the field and slowing the game.  It goes to what I believe should be the fundamental guideline for any eye in the sky review - "if millions of people sitting on their couch can easily see an obvious error - correct it immediately and move on"

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

17 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Pretty sure (if done properly) it would have been an immediate 'eye in the sky' review - immediate reversal and not involving the refs on the field and slowing the game.  It goes to what I believe should be the fundamental guideline for any eye in the sky review - "if millions of people sitting on their couch can easily see an obvious error - correct it immediately and move on"

Why don’t the bills ever get the “replay assist”? The refs were obsessed with it a few games ago against us. 

[stevewin]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Why don’t the bills ever get the “replay assist”? The refs were obsessed with it a few games ago against us. 

It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

[Big Turk]

15 hours ago, f0neguy said:

Everything is reviewed in the last two minutes.  They review it, doesn’t mean they get it right.

 

Clearly not because it was blatantly obvious the ball hit the ground while he never possessed it.  There is no way that was a catch.  Luckily the refs threw a flag for holding on the Mahomes run the next play that basically put them back in what they should have been in, 4th and 13 prior to the non-review.

[TheWeatherMan]

They missed the pick play on the chiefs and arguably another on the Bills TD.  The PF on the Rapp INT was a complete joke.  Might have called a good FG no good (can anyone confirm).  It was no where near good officiating but relative to all of the other games, this crew was top notch.  

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

They missed the pick play on the chiefs and arguably another on the Bills TD.  The PF on the Rapp INT was a complete joke.  Might have called a good FG no good (can anyone confirm).  It was no where near good officiating but relative to all of the other games, this crew was top notch.  

 

I don't really think Hollins was a pick on the Samuel TD. He was running a route and the Chiefs player ran into him. I mean if someone is running into me I am probably putting my hands up to to protect myself.

[LABILLBACKER]

15 hours ago, DJB said:

Refs once again doing everything they can to let KC win

 

When it’s every fan base saying the same thing it’s so obvious what’s going on 

The only way the NFL and their controlled refs keep the Chiefs out of this SB would be if Mahomes gets hurt and his narrative is over. The blatant and obvious unfair favoritism for KC has now officially reached NE levels.

[UConn James]

iirc, there was a big run by KC late, and a Chiefs OL push-blocked Bernard, Bernard fell back on the ground. Then when Bernard went to get back up and was on all-fours with face & body all turned downfield, the same OL jumped on Bernard from behind (literally from 6 o’clock) and pinned him to the ground. Wondering how that was not a block in the back?

[dickleyjones]

4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

They were showing replays during the time-out and it looked pretty definitive.

it was really close to be sure. i think overturning a call on the field needs it to be 100% (definitive).

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

I actually thought the refs were decent today. Let’s be honest, the Bills definitely benefited from some non-calls as well. Hollins should’ve been called for a pick on Samuel’s touchdown for one thing. That being said, I’ll take it and the win, go Bills!!

That wasn’t even close to an opi imo.  Hollins never diverted from his route and the defender was completely lost trying to catch up on the play 

 

he was completely boxed out by just the route combination in general even if no contact happened and just wandered into hollins’ route 

Edited November 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

They missed the pick play on the chiefs and arguably another on the Bills TD.  The PF on the Rapp INT was a complete joke.  Might have called a good FG no good (can anyone confirm).  It was no where near good officiating but relative to all of the other games, this crew was top notch.  

 

Not might on the Bills TD. That was baltent OPI and the biggest missed call of the night. 2nd was the facemask on Johnson. 3rd was the non-review of the drop inside 2 minutes (not on the on field refs). 

 

I also thought on Gray's first TD that the Chiefs had an illegal formation with not enough guys on the line, but it was tight.