longtimebillsfan Posted October 12 Posted October 12 9 hours ago, GreggTX said: I know this may not be a popular opinion, but I think we should explore the option of trading Matt Milano. He has a history of injuries and we could enter the 2025 draft weekend armed with some serious draft capital. Maybe this is where we get Diggs' successor, our Von Miller heir and continue building at G and DT. This, of couse, depends on Dorian Williams' continued development, but he's playing well. We don't need to decide yet, but the possibility intrigues me. After all, the best ability is availability and why else would we have used a 3rd round pick on Williams? We used a 3rd rounder on Bernard and look at what happened at MLB. I think Milano's contract has us keeping him for another year so he isn't likely to be released outright, but a trade could mitigate the financial impact. We have time to watch Dorian Williams develop too. Also, Beane has shown that he's not afraid to pul the trigger on an explosive trade. Your thoughts? I questioned whether he should have been signed to his current contract. He has had difficulty staying on the field throughout hus career. Part of being great is availability. 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 More thoughts for the OP? He seems to have left a bag of **** on the doorstep and then disappeared. 1 3 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 12 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, longtimebillsfan said: I questioned whether he should have been signed to his current contract. He has had difficulty staying on the field throughout hus career. Part of being great is availability. That’s a lot different than unloading him midseason while injured and would’ve made a better thread 🤣 Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 10 hours ago, GreggTX said: I know this may not be a popular opinion, but I think we should explore the option of trading Matt Milano. He has a history of injuries and we could enter the 2025 draft weekend armed with some serious draft capital. Maybe this is where we get Diggs' successor, our Von Miller heir and continue building at G and DT. This, of couse, depends on Dorian Williams' continued development, but he's playing well. We don't need to decide yet, but the possibility intrigues me. After all, the best ability is availability and why else would we have used a 3rd round pick on Williams? We used a 3rd rounder on Bernard and look at what happened at MLB. I think Milano's contract has us keeping him for another year so he isn't likely to be released outright, but a trade could mitigate the financial impact. We have time to watch Dorian Williams develop too. Also, Beane has shown that he's not afraid to pul the trigger on an explosive trade. Your thoughts? Unfortunately yes…I love Milano, but the writing is on the wall…This is where good GMs have the foresight to do what needs to be done… Plus, we now have an emerging Dorian Williams on a rookie deal who is going to take over that spot…👍 9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: That’s a lot different than unloading him midseason while injured and would’ve made a better thread 🤣 Not during the season, but in the offseason…👍 Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 10 hours ago, FireChans said: "This guy has a big contract, is always hurt and he's 30. Let's make an explosive trade for serious draft capital." Doesn’t have to be expensive…I would be fine with a day 3 pick…it’s more value than what we are getting from Milano, unfortunately… 10 hours ago, beerme1 said: Is it the off season already? Unfortunately…I’ve already started to watch video of draft prospects…this season is going nowhere, no matter how much we try to convince ourselves…Keep building…👍 Edited October 12 by JaCrispy 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) Unfortunately at this point he holds more value for us than anyone else, especially at his salary which other teams will shy away from. Edited October 12 by billsbackto81 Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: We need far more consistent play out of Dorian Williams before I'd entertain this. Jacksonville was his best game as a Bill but he followed it up with one of his worst vs Baltimore. Then he was slightly better again vs Houston. Slightly better vs Houston??? Lol He was the lone standout player on the team…12 tackles, with 10 solo… I was screaming his name all game as he was making play after play… Certainly a breakout game for him…I think he will only continue to get better as the season goes on and gets more comfortable…👍 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 12 Posted October 12 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Slightly better vs Houston??? Lol He was the lone standout player on the team…12 tackles, with 10 solo… I was screaming his name all game as he was making play after play… Certainly a breakout game for him…I think he will only continue to get better as the season goes on and gets more comfortable…👍 He was still out of position a few times. Slightly is probably unfair, let's say better but still inconsistent vs Houston. His best game by far is still Jacksonville. Baltimore his worst. 1 Quote
T master Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Hell to the no . There would be a dead money thing to tend with & the fact that your giving away a pro bowl LB and the Bills need all the great players they can get . Quote
BuffaloBill Posted October 12 Posted October 12 12 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: A 30-year old, oft-injured LB... Or a 7th round pick Quote
ColoradoBills Posted October 12 Posted October 12 18 minutes ago, T master said: Hell to the no . There would be a dead money thing to tend with & the fact that your giving away a pro bowl LB and the Bills need all the great players they can get . His dead money is the same for trades or outright cut. It equals to almost half of his remaining cap hit. I'm for taking the risk he will come back worth the difference in dead vs cap hit. Quote
FireChans Posted October 12 Posted October 12 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Doesn’t have to be expensive…I would be fine with a day 3 pick…it’s more value than what we are getting from Milano, unfortunately… We wouldn't get any value from a 2025 6th round pick right now either. Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: We wouldn't get any value from a 2025 6th round pick right now either. True, but I was factoring in the potential of also removing the contract from the books…but after being updated, it doesn’t seem like that’s gonna be able to happen Quote
SoCal Deek Posted October 12 Posted October 12 3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Milano is not a cap hell guy at all. He will hurt if we cut him but he is not a Diggs situation or even a Tre White situation. Milano upside is all pro so we had to pay him more than an average LB but he is not the highest paid guy at all. So you’re saying that it’s not only me but a bunch of other guys who know very little about the cap or contract deals? Quote
K-9 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Citing the number of tackles by a linebacker as proof that he’s good or not is perhaps the most shallow analysis of the position. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted October 12 Posted October 12 4 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Agree wi everything here except thinking that Rapps return is a positive. Which Bill will he injure next? That’s a good point Taxi. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 12 Posted October 12 12 hours ago, Simon said: He’s more valuable to us than he is anybody else right now. And it might be reeeeal nice to go into a playoff game with both him and Bernard on the field. in what year? Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 30 minutes ago, K-9 said: Citing the number of tackles by a linebacker as proof that he’s good or not is perhaps the most shallow analysis of the position. Depends when and where they are made 👍 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 12 Posted October 12 57 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So you’re saying that it’s not only me but a bunch of other guys who know very little about the cap or contract deals? I am saying if we cut him it is a $10 million dead hit. Which does not compare to the 30 for Diggs or 17 for White. Right now he is a $10 million dud but with a potential to become a deal. Quote
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