Looks like the pilot had fish for dinner

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2024/10/09/turkish-airlines-pilot-dies-mid-flight/75584479007/

 

[Sweats]

Jesus.....

 

I was on a flight from Japan to Vancouver about 10 years ago and mid-flight, we had an electrical fire on board (you could smell burning electronics all throughout the plane).The pilots had to reroute all power from everything on the plane to the cockpit (flight deck) which seemed to ease the tensions for a bit, until the pilots made the announcement that they may have to re-route the plane or make an emergency landing (we are all sitting in total darkness, by the way)......we are halfway between our destination and completely smack dab over the Pacific, so where are we going to re-route to? That's exactly what you want to hear as you're over the Pacific that they may have to make an emergency landing.

Chaos ensued......like, i'm talking some real "Lord of the Flies" type stuff.

It was wild, man.

 

Long story short, we finally arrived in Vancouver, no problem. The pilot tells everyone to stay on the plane for safety until everything gets checked out. Four and a half hours later a flight representative comes on board and tells everyone that we can leave and, "oh, no refunds and thanks for flying Air Canada".

 

Wait?.....what?

I wasn't expecting a full refund, but some sort of compensation would have been nice.

Screw you, Air Canada.......never again.

 

[Saxum]

No idea what subject means.

[Augie]

During college my daughter-in-law spent some time in Australia. That’s a very long flight! On the way there the man next to her was very quiet for a long time. A very long time. 

 

She doesn’t like to talk about it much. 😂 

[That's No Moon]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

Jesus.....

 

I was on a flight from Japan to Vancouver about 10 years ago and mid-flight, we had an electrical fire on board (you could smell burning electronics all throughout the plane).The pilots had to reroute all power from everything on the plane to the cockpit (flight deck) which seemed to ease the tensions for a bit, until the pilots made the announcement that they may have to re-route the plane or make an emergency landing (we are all sitting in total darkness, by the way)......we are halfway between our destination and completely smack dab over the Pacific, so where are we going to re-route to? That's exactly what you want to hear as you're over the Pacific that they may have to make an emergency landing.

Chaos ensued......like, i'm talking some real "Lord of the Flies" type stuff.

It was wild, man.

 

Long story short, we finally arrived in Vancouver, no problem. The pilot tells everyone to stay on the plane for safety until everything gets checked out. Four and a half hours later a flight representative comes on board and tells everyone that we can leave and, "oh, no refunds and thanks for flying Air Canada".

 

Wait?.....what?

I wasn't expecting a full refund, but some sort of compensation would have been nice.

Screw you, Air Canada.......never again.

 

So, with concern of fire they kept you ON the plane for safety? Feels more like they were conducting some sort of investigation to see what caused the problem and suspected someone in the plane had done it

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

So, with concern of fire they kept you ON the plane for safety? Feels more like they were conducting some sort of investigation to see what caused the problem and suspected someone in the plane had done it

 

I think I read about this. They tried, but they could never get a confession out of @Sweats. Used every trick in the book! 

 

Seriously, if the problem is related to a potential electrical fire, get people off the damn plane. 

 

If you try to hold me on a plane on the tarmac for 4.5 hours, it might get ugly. 

[XXXtraAnchovies]

3 hours ago, Saxum said:

No idea what subject means.

it means he should have had the lasagna

Edited October 9 by XXXtraAnchovies

[QCity]

4 hours ago, Saxum said:

No idea what subject means.

 

Shirley you can't be serious.

[Just Jack]

4 hours ago, XXXtraAnchovies said:

it means he should have had the lasagna

 

I forgot the doctor had lasagna, I only remembered the choices being fish or steak. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

I was waiting for a video of the captain on a stretcher with Lakers shorts on

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 hours ago, Saxum said:

No idea what subject means.

Do you like gladiator movies?

[Sweats]

13 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I think I read about this. They tried, but they could never get a confession out of @Sweats. Used every trick in the book! 

 

Seriously, if the problem is related to a potential electrical fire, get people off the damn plane. 

 

If you try to hold me on a plane on the tarmac for 4.5 hours, it might get ugly. 

 

 

 

You son of a *****!!!!

 

In regard to your other post, a guy actually did die on the plane during that whole incident......heart attack. The covered him with a blanket and didn't tell anyone. The only way i knew about it was because the flight attendant was going up and down the aisles asking anyone if they were a doctor and as luck would have it, the guy beside me was. He left for 20 minutes, came back to the seat and whispered to me, "heart attack.....didn't make it" and that was the end of that.

Now remember, we were all sitting in the pitch black for the remainder of the flight, you couldn't see nothing, so no one would have ever noticed anything. I seem to recall that he was the first guy they took off the flight when we could finally leave.......so, if you want to get off the plane quick, be a dead guy.

[sherpa]

17 hours ago, Sweats said:

Jesus.....

 

I was on a flight from Japan to Vancouver about 10 years ago and mid-flight, we had an electrical fire on board (you could smell burning electronics all throughout the plane).The pilots had to reroute all power from everything on the plane to the cockpit (flight deck) which seemed to ease the tensions for a bit, until the pilots made the announcement that they may have to re-route the plane or make an emergency landing (we are all sitting in total darkness, by the way)......we are halfway between our destination and completely smack dab over the Pacific, so where are we going to re-route to? 

 

 

To answer the question, you always have a "primary divert," which is an airport that can service your airplane, has access to medical facilities etc.

On routes from Japan to N. America, after a few hours it switches, generally, from a Japanese airport to Anchorage. There are other options depending on how far south the route is, but generally its Anchorage.

 

You also have an an emergency divert, which you would go to if you absolutely had to get the airplane on the ground as fast as possible. The only real criteria is weather above minimums and a long enough, wide enough runway and taxiways.

 

These things are discussed in the cockpit as the flight progresses, and you load them in the nav system and change them long the way.  

[Steve O]

19 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2024/10/09/turkish-airlines-pilot-dies-mid-flight/75584479007/

 

 

18 hours ago, Sweats said:

Jesus.....

 

I was on a flight from Japan to Vancouver about 10 years ago and mid-flight, we had an electrical fire on board (you could smell burning electronics all throughout the plane).The pilots had to reroute all power from everything on the plane to the cockpit (flight deck) which seemed to ease the tensions for a bit, until the pilots made the announcement that they may have to re-route the plane or make an emergency landing (we are all sitting in total darkness, by the way)......we are halfway between our destination and completely smack dab over the Pacific, so where are we going to re-route to? That's exactly what you want to hear as you're over the Pacific that they may have to make an emergency landing.

Chaos ensued......like, i'm talking some real "Lord of the Flies" type stuff.

It was wild, man.

 

Long story short, we finally arrived in Vancouver, no problem. The pilot tells everyone to stay on the plane for safety until everything gets checked out. Four and a half hours later a flight representative comes on board and tells everyone that we can leave and, "oh, no refunds and thanks for flying Air Canada".

 

Wait?.....what?

I wasn't expecting a full refund, but some sort of compensation would have been nice.

Screw you, Air Canada.......never again.

 

Scary stories. And people wonder why I don't fly.

[Sweats]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

To answer the question, you always have a "primary divert," which is an airport that can service your airplane, has access to medical facilities etc.

On routes from Japan to N. America, after a few hours it switches, generally, from a Japanese airport to Anchorage. There are other options depending on how far south the route is, but generally its Anchorage.

 

You also have an an emergency divert, which you would go to if you absolutely had to get the airplane on the ground as fast as possible. The only real criteria is weather above minimums and a long enough, wide enough runway and taxiways.

 

These things are discussed in the cockpit as the flight progresses, and you load them in the nav system and change them long the way.  

 

 

 

Here's the thing, if you are 4 hours into a 10 hour flight over the Pacific and you have an emergency, where are you going to land when it's water for as far as the eye can see? Do you turn around and fly 4 hours back or do you keep on the same flight path until you get closer to some kind of land somewhere?......it's not like there's a whole lot of land out there over the Pacific to land a plane.

 

I think turning the plane around and heading back to Japan would have been the best option, as it would have eased a lot of tension on board and not have people completely panicked for another 6 hours to reach Vancouver........6 hours in complete darkness, not knowing what's going on and if you're going to die that day is a long time, my friend........a long time to contemplate life.......and death.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

You son of a *****!!!!

 

In regard to your other post, a guy actually did die on the plane during that whole incident......heart attack. The covered him with a blanket and didn't tell anyone. The only way i knew about it was because the flight attendant was going up and down the aisles asking anyone if they were a doctor and as luck would have it, the guy beside me was. He left for 20 minutes, came back to the seat and whispered to me, "heart attack.....didn't make it" and that was the end of that.

Now remember, we were all sitting in the pitch black for the remainder of the flight, you couldn't see nothing, so no one would have ever noticed anything. I seem to recall that he was the first guy they took off the flight when we could finally leave.......so, if you want to get off the plane quick, be a dead guy.

 

I’m a bit confused. I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t laugh at that. 

[Sweats]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m a bit confused. I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t laugh at that. 

 

 

 

 

I can look back at it now and laugh at how absurd the whole thing was, but at the time, it was sheer panic, dread and chaos........i mean, the dead guy was the only one not making a fuss (he had a good reason, i guess)

[Royale with Cheese]

I wasn't able to fly comfortably for about 10 years after the plane crash in Buffalo in 2009.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgan_Air_Flight_3407

 

I was in Baltimore, MD for work and was going to visit family in Buffalo after.  I had two options of connecting flights....Philadelphia, PA or Newark, NJ.

The only reason I chose Philadelphia is because I have never been there before.  Newark's flight is the one that crashed.

 

The was the most brutal flight I have ever been on and I was very shaken when we landed.  My uncle picked me up at the airport and took me to his house.

My cell phone died and I didn't charge it when I got to his house....I just went to sleep.

 

I plug in my phone around 7:00 am the next morning and my phone went crazy.  My mom and dad called a few times but got a hold of my uncle so they knew I was safe.  My friends however freaked out.  They thought I was on that flight.

 

[sherpa]

59 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

I can look back at it now and laugh at how absurd the whole thing was, but at the time, it was sheer panic, dread and chaos........i mean, the dead guy was the only one not making a fuss (he had a good reason, i guess)

 

I'm a bit confused. You had a dead guy and an electrical fire on the same flight?

 

Anyway, regarding the issue, a passenger would not know the best course of action.

For instance, in your example, the strongest jet stream winds on earth are over the northern Pacific east of Japan during fall and winter. Often over 200 knots.

That means that if you continue east towards the US or continental North America, you would have a 400+ knot groundspeed advantage over turning back west to Japan.

 

Regarding in flight stuff, a dead passenger would not cause a divert. A serious medical emergency would, depending on the circumstance.

I've had a few of these. Nobody dead, but a couple of rather serious medical events, including one on a Japan to Chicago flight.

[Sweats]

35 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I'm a bit confused. You had a dead guy and an electrical fire on the same flight?

 

Anyway, regarding the issue, a passenger would not know the best course of action.

For instance, in your example, the strongest jet stream winds on earth are over the northern Pacific east of Japan during fall and winter. Often over 200 knots.

That means that if you continue east towards the US or continental North America, you would have a 400+ knot groundspeed advantage over turning back west to Japan.

 

Regarding in flight stuff, a dead passenger would not cause a divert. A serious medical emergency would, depending on the circumstance.

I've had a few of these. Nobody dead, but a couple of rather serious medical events, including one on a Japan to Chicago flight.

 

 

 

I assure you, yes.

 

I know the dead guy was somewhere in 1st class. I was in economy, so i was at the back of the plane and no one knows where the electrical fire started or where it was, but you could smell it throughout the whole plane for hours.

The fire started first (which led to power being rerouted to the flight deck and we sat in darkness) and then about 30 minutes after, the doctor (who was sitting beside me) was asked by the attendant to check on a passenger in 1st class......and about 20 minutes after that, when the doctor came back to his seat, he told me the guy was dead of a heart attack.

 

They weren't going to reroute the plan or do an emergency landing over the dead guy (he wasn't going anywhere)......it was the fire concern.