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Neuroscientist wants the NFL to investigate Josh Allen’s apparent head injury


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It is possible to to pass out without a concussion occasionally.

 

My brother was tripped inadvertently at a friendly skate and went head first into the dasher of the boards and got a nasty cut as well as being knocked out briefly. The ambulance and the hospital both concluded he hadn't got a concussion. So in rare cases it is possible.

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23 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

Has he been checked for CTE or this just publicity to raise donations for Concussion Legacy Foundation?

He has quite a bit of conflict of interest.

CTE can only be conclusively diagnosed after death.

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38 minutes ago, papazoid said:

he hit his head pretty hard.....his hand wrist went limp as he slid/rolled to a stop.....sure looked like he was knocked out, however briefly

 

should be interesting if he experiences any symptoms this week 


His wrist went limp?

 

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14 minutes ago, K-9 said:

CTE can only be conclusively diagnosed after death.

The Concussion Legacy Foundation finds it in every single former player they test for it, too. Raises a lot of questions. Sampling bias? Do they ever test the brains of people who didn't play contact/combat sports professionally? Does everyone possibly have this, to some degree?

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I am 1000000% for player safety.  But...I have some issues here:

  1. Hitting your head does not guarantee a concussion.  
  2. Allen did not seem to have any lingering affects at any point as he walked off the field to when he came back into the game or through his play.  Not even in the post game interview either.  
  3. Allen can be heard talking about his chest like he more got the wind knocked out of him.  Granted, he could be just saying that trying to stay in the game, but that is why he goes to the tent to be checked by an independent 3rd party head trauma specialist.
  4. He was cleared to go back in by that independent specialist, which ever since Tua's issues in 2022 it is VERY difficult to get cleared now where even the slightest suspicion and they will error on the side of caution and not let them back in.  

So I am not sure what someone watching from a TV thinks they know more about than the 3rd party impartial specialist who directly examined him and cleared him to return when they are incredibly strict now since the Tua issues in 2022.    

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I am 1000000% for player safety.  But...I have some issues here:

  1. Hitting your head does not guarantee a concussion.  
  2. Allen did not seem to have any lingering affects at any point as he walked off the field to when he came back into the game or through his play.  Not even in the post game interview either.  
  3. Allen can be heard talking about his chest like he more got the wind knocked out of him.  Granted, he could be just saying that trying to stay in the game, but that is why he goes to the tent to be checked by an independent 3rd party head trauma specialist.
  4. He was cleared to go back in by that independent specialist, which ever since Tua's issues in 2022 it is VERY difficult to get cleared now where even the slightest suspicion and they will error on the side of caution and not let them back in.  

So I am not sure what someone watching from a TV thinks they know more about than the 3rd party impartial specialist who directly examined him and cleared him to return when they are incredibly strict now since the Tua issues in 2022.   

 

When it's a person who has been adversarial against the NFL and continually written articles about the concussion lawsuit and personally profits from the condition.. well.. I don't think the player's welfare is the 1st thing in his mind.

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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I am 1000000% for player safety.  But...I have some issues here:

  1. Hitting your head does not guarantee a concussion.  
  2. Allen did not seem to have any lingering affects at any point as he walked off the field to when he came back into the game or through his play.  Not even in the post game interview either.  
  3. Allen can be heard talking about his chest like he more got the wind knocked out of him.  Granted, he could be just saying that trying to stay in the game, but that is why he goes to the tent to be checked by an independent 3rd party head trauma specialist.
  4. He was cleared to go back in by that independent specialist, which ever since Tua's issues in 2022 it is VERY difficult to get cleared now where even the slightest suspicion and they will error on the side of caution and not let them back in.  

So I am not sure what someone watching from a TV thinks they know more about than the 3rd party impartial specialist who directly examined him and cleared him to return when they are incredibly strict now since the Tua issues in 2022.    

 

 

 

There is one part that is convincing me more and more that he wasn't concussed.  When he first hit the ground, he is pounding his feet up and down like he was in pain.  Concussed people aren't moving their legs like that.

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