Mister Defense Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I dont think that is true, the independent neurologist was in place for Tua's concussions. But they did tweek the protocol to inlcude ataxia as a no-go.... https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-modify-concussion-protocols-following-completion-of-tua-tagov Funny, this whole board was positive Tua had a concussion from their couches and that was accepted. LOl, well, not by everyone! Some supremely dumb threads and posts after this loss. I tend not to get on here much after losses, generally speaking. Now I am wondering if so many are so ignorant this often? In this thread, the OP diagnosed a concussion from his couch, and would bet on his intelligent diagnosis... All the trashing of McD and Beane and other super dumb, can't be any dumber threads than this and the OP. Like little kids with no logic or experience, just throwing out random reactions as factual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 26 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: I tend not to get on here much after losses, generally speaking THis is definitely a smart move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 11 hours ago, Doc said: In his post-game presser he said "big shot to the chest" and "rolled my ankle." After the incident he walked-off on his own to the sideline as if nothing happened, waved off smelling salts and did a 3-1/2 minute post-game press conference under bright lights. there was no shot to the chest on that play 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: there was no shot to the chest on that play Nor did anyone on the training staff look at his ankle, he wasn’t on the ground wincing in pain either…..probably due to the unconsciousness. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 12 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Lotta “I think” in this thread. Be prepared. Lots of posters mix up words dream and think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, BillsFan2313 said: I was at the game numb nuts. I saw it with my eyes, Dorky. As if they gives you better information than a camera zoomed in on him from multiple angles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, zow2 said: It sure looked like a concussion to me. That was old school to give him smelling salts and send him back in the game. I think it will be looked at this week by the league. For Allen to come out in the post game presser and say yeah it was my chest and an ankle.. Ok, Josh. He waved-off the person offering him smelling salts. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: there was no shot to the chest on that play Take it up with Josh. That's what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 4 hours ago, TwistofFate said: Not with head injuries. There is an independent neurologist who makes the call on head injuries. That doctor is unaffiliated with the team. No. Head team physician still has final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 4 hours ago, CountDorkula said: So you believe Tua also didn’t have a concussion because he also passed the test from an independent neurologist. Yes. There isn't a conspiracy out there. If you pass the tests they clear you. Again, none of you are neurologists and I'm not about to question a Doctor who is specifically hired by the NFL to catch these things. They also have spotters in the box, they also began using guardian head caps. The NFL takes it seriously, clearly. 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No. Head team physician still has final say. This is factually incorrect. The independent neurologist has the final say on whether or not a player returns to action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: there was no shot to the chest on that play I thought he got the wind knocked out of him, which might have just been how he landed. His head did hit the turf but that doesn't mean he got a concussion either. Boxers get punched in the head and don't get a concussion on every punch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 He was out. His head didn't just hit this ground. His head bounced off the ground, a couple of times, because he was unconscious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, TwistofFate said: The independent neurologist has the final say on whether or not a player returns to action. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5764056/2024/09/12/what-is-nfl-concussion-protocol/ Who has the final say about the player’s status? If a player doesn’t exhibit one of the “no-go” symptoms, then each step of the league’s concussion protocol is determined by a team physician in consultation with an unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant on the sideline. https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1665264248/league/moexjmdzy2kvjtqsdpbx.pdf Regardless, the responsibility for the diagnosis of concussion and the decision to return a player to a game remains exclusively within the professional judgment of the Head Team Physician or his/her physician designee responsible for the diagnosis and treatment of concussion For the avoidance of doubt, the responsibility for the diagnosis of concussion and the decision to return a player to a game remain exclusively within the professional judgment of the Head Team Physician or the Club physician designated as responsible for the diagnosis and management of concussion. Edited October 7 by Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 He should probably retire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Matt Hasselbeck on the Cowherd show said the way Josh Allen's injury was handled was "embarrassing, disgusting and a joke". He was visibly angry about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 20 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: It was pretty clear that when his head hit the ground on the sack he got a concussion. It's the NFLs concussion protocol a joke ? I don't know how he isn't concussed. I really hope they're keeping an eye on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 4 hours ago, Doc said: He waved-off the person offering him smelling salts. Take it up with Josh. That's what he said. we all saw the video, including you doc. no need to ask Josh what the video plainly shows us. 2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I thought he got the wind knocked out of him, which might have just been how he landed. His head did hit the turf but that doesn't mean he got a concussion either. Boxers get punched in the head and don't get a concussion on every punch. "how he landed" was with his head bouncing off the turf. you can't see someone not get a concussion (he was out by the way)--getting the wind knocked out of you doesn't make you temporarily motionless prone... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: you can't see someone not get a concussion (he was out by the way)--getting the wind knocked out of you doesn't make you temporarily motionless prone... I'm not saying you're wrong because I think he was concussed. However, have you ever gotten the wind knocked out of you? You can't move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 20 hours ago, TonyBeets said: I'm pretty certain Josh was concussed. He passed the protocol and they allowed him back out. Josh is too tough for his own good. He is also too smart for his own good. So passing a protocol despite being concussed should not come as a surprise. So you think he's smart enough to BS the Dr's & specialist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 13 hours ago, NewEra said: We may have won the game with Trubisky That's it, you're going to the blue tent. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, skibum said: That's it, you're going to the blue tent. I deserve it, I know 😉 what we do know is, Josh didn’t get us a TD. Trubisky may only have had a .5% chance of scoring, but at this point, that’s better than the 💯 fail we got from Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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