10/6/2024 - Bills at Texans post game thread.

[Bruffalo]

6 minutes ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

Did Allen play bad today? Yes. Does it help we had Stevie wonder at head coach today. No.

It feels like Allen is hesitating because he can’t trust the guys out there, and he isn’t wrong, they are almost all WR6 on other teams.

 

Coleman and Shakir are the only exceptions, and Coleman is too new to be relied on and Shakir is a high end slot WR. 

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[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

It feels like Allen is hesitating because he can’t trust the guys out there, and he isn’t wrong, they are almost all WR6 on other teams.

 

Coleman and Shakir are the only exceptions, and Coleman is too new to be relied on and Shakir is a high end slot WR. 

 

Shakir is very good. We still need an outside receiver though.

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said:

Does anyone really believe Allen is this bad or maybe he just has a trash group of receivers that cannot create separation,  I pick the later

First half Allen was pretty bad. Second half was a combination. He was making a lot of poor decisions.  Receivers were getting open. He made decision to go elsewhere for some reason.

 

It’s been an issue that he’s been able to overcome for the most part the last few years. He ignores shorter open receivers for covered deeper receivers. Tom Brady mentioned he needed to take the safer throws for maybe less yards instead of forcing things on a podcast or something and Allen kinda rolled his eyes at it. 
 

He’s one of the most talented players to ever play in the NFL and does amazing things that maybe 1 or 2 other qbs can do. It masks his issues for the most part but when he’s not on his floor can be pretty bad. He needs to learn to take what’s open(was better first couple games this year), make safer throws, and put some air under his deep balls(Kincaid wide open and ball is thrown low trajectory and almost picked when it should have been an easy TD). His deeper shots are hard to track for receivers because they come in low. 

[Big Blitz]

Feel the need to add perspective here after about 8 hours to evaluate where the AFC is.  
 

 

We just played the 2 best teams in the AFC on the road.  
 

I think we need the OC to counter punch.  The QB to get his head out of his ***.  Try and get another WR.  
 

And McD needs an Ernie Adams.  
 

 

On to the next.  

[pigpen65]

Is there really a debate on how Allen played today? This was his worst game as a pro player.

[BananaB]

16 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Is there really a debate on how Allen played today? This was his worst game as a pro player.

Josh was bad but the expectations with these WRs is kind of laughable. Josh gotta find the open guy but no one really gets open. He has to put it right in the bread basket because everybody is struggling to catch. He’s asked to play perfect football every week. Now the oline is getting leaky, teams are realizing they don’t have any weapons downfield so they play close to the line and blitz. Josh was off but the people around him gotta ***** help him out. 
Half dozen times a game they run the WR screen. 

Right now with these WRs are making Isiah McKenzie and Gabe Davis look real ***** good. Guess it was stupid of us to ask for an upgrade. Where is McKenzie because he could do Coleman’s job better Coleman is doing.

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[Process]

15 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Is there really a debate on how Allen played today? This was his worst game as a pro player.

Ridiculous 

[LABILLBACKER]

14 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Is there really a debate on how Allen played today? This was his worst game as a pro player.

Statistically no....he's had about 8 career games with a rating under 50. Today he had a 56 rating because of all the incompletions.  1 td, no turnovers. Yes there were poor throws but a few drops. This was hardly his worst game ever. Josh once had a 17 rating.  0 tds, 3 ints. Today was more about poor OL play, poor wr separation and a struggling OC #3.

[reddogblitz]

40 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Josh was bad but the expectations with these WRs is kind of laughable. Josh gotta find the open guy but no one really gets open. He has to put it right in the bread basket because everybody is struggling to catch. He’s asked to play perfect football every week. Now the oline is getting leaky, teams are realizing they don’t have any weapons downfield so they play close to the line and blitz. Josh was off but the people around him gotta ***** help him out. 
Half dozen times a game they run the WR screen. 

Right now with these WRs are making Isiah McKenzie and Gabe Davis look real ***** good. Guess it was stupid of us to ask for an upgrade. Where is McKenzie because he could do Coleman’s job better Coleman is doing.

 

This is both a lot of truth and a lot of excuse making.  Yeah our WRs are bad.  But today Josh seemed to revert back to sugar high Josh trying to force the football downfield to guys that weren't even open.  He also overthrew several balls and several more landed yards beyond the boundary.  He's our $60,000,000 man and a 7 year vet.  He needs to play better regardless of what everyone else does/doesn't do.

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[Skyline Chili]

If we can somehow beat the Jets, this gauntlet of road games is a success.  Glass is half full thinking on my end 

[Chandler#81]

From my perspective, Josh looked uninterested the entire game. I could tell early by his eyes that this was gonna be a long/bad day. Not Joe Ferguson-like disgusted, just ambivalent. He never snapped out of it including his post game presser. It’s rare, but when he’s like this, Sean needs to chew him out/slap the sh!+ outta him.

 

Don’t care if I receive flak for this. I’ve seen it enough to know when his head just isn’t into it.🤷‍♂️

[BananaB]

30 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

This is both a lot of truth and a lot of excuse making.  Yeah our WRs are bad.  But today Josh seemed to revert back to sugar high Josh trying to force the football downfield to guys that weren't even open.  He also overthrew several balls and several more landed yards beyond the boundary.  He's our $60,000,000 man and a 7 year vet.  He needs to play better regardless of what everyone else does/doesn't do.

Lmao…. He’s forcing balls because no one is getting open. He’s gotta play perfect and there is a lack of trust in just about everything Beane has put around him at this point. If your 5 weeks into the season and your O looks like it’s falling apart instead of starting to come together there is a problem with players, OC and QB. At this point the only guy we know can play is Josh and cook so you might want to start looking around what’s left. 
 

Josh was bad yesterday but supporting cast is making his job harder than it needs to be. 

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[reddogblitz]

59 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Lmao…. He’s forcing balls because no one is getting open. He’s gotta play perfect and there is a lack of trust in just about everything Beane has put around him at this point. If your 5 weeks into the season and your O looks like it’s falling apart instead of starting to come together there is a problem with players, OC and QB. At this point the only guy we know can play is Josh and cook so you might want to start looking around what’s left. 
 

Josh was bad yesterday but supporting cast is making his job harder than it needs to be. 

 

Let me see if I have this right.  Josh threw the football well and with accuracy today?

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

We're good enough to beat every single team out there.  

[BananaB]

8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Let me see if I have this right.  Josh threw the football well and with accuracy today?

He played bad but his supporting group did nothing to help, they played bad also. Passes were off but someone also posted there was 10 dropped balls.  Can’t just put it all on one guy because he’s the best player and you expect more out of him. He still needs guys do to their job as well.  Guys aren’t open, when the ball is there they miss it. Oline is getting pushed around and Josh is running for his life. OC is doing a terrible job. It’s the whole ***** group. Josh has no trust in WRs and rightfully so, none of them have done anything to deserve it.  Everything was a mess yesterday, not just Josh. Some of you think he is the only guy who gotta perform on Sunday

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[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

 

I ***** love Dorian Williams

[TurfToeJam]

Allen seems to have zero chemistry with the receivers.  Also true that the receivers are not really getting separation (with exception of mack hollins, amazingly).  Defenses don't even fear Allen's long passes anymore.  They know Allen will just overthrow it.  The timing is way off.  

 

Allen desperately needs a legit wr1 which Allen can focus on to build that chemistry and trust.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Josh Allen will never have another game where he's 9 of 30, and if he does, who cares- it's an absolute fluke.  Allen was 9of 30 and we were tied- this is a good team.