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Seems like most teams have key players already injured and out for multiple games or more.

 

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Not really. White went down early last year.  Rousseau and Oliver are usually beat up and miss games early in the year. Milano and DQ went down game 3 last year

 

Draft small players over and over and this is what happens on average

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4 minutes ago, Savage said:

I was referring to league wide.

 

the Bills always have their fair share.

 

No idea but maybe shorter training camp or lack of good trainers like Jones was for Bills SB runs

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10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Not really. White went down early last year.  Rousseau and Oliver are usually beat up and miss games early in the year. Milano and DQ went down game 3 last year

 

Draft small players over and over and this is what happens on average

 

In what world are Rousseau and DaQuan Jones small players?

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Ever since the NFLPA forced an end to the more physical offseason training that most NFL teams had traditionally run, the players seem to be more susceptible to injury. 
 

Everything is softer now. Sad. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, Savage said:

Seems like most teams have key players already injured and out for multiple games or more.

 

 

It seems so to me, too.   I don't know if statistics actually show that, but maybe we notice the injuries more this season because some of the teams that were preseason favorites to make the playoffs seem to be suffering multiple injuries to starters.

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There are some opinions that there is too much emphasis on weight training and not enough attention paid to flexibility.  Some blame the number of foot injuries on the light weight shoes that players prefer to play faster.  People also attribute many of the shoulder injuries to the small light weight shoulder pads that players like.  I also believe the artificial playing surfaces have a big impact on the rate of injury around the league.

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But the league just changed the kickoffs to make them safe.  They’ve changed several rules in the last 5 years for player safety.  How are there still record breaking amounts of injuries?  Weird. 

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3 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

There are some opinions that there is too much emphasis on weight training and not enough attention paid to flexibility.  Some blame the number of foot injuries on the light weight shoes that players prefer to play faster.  People also attribute many of the shoulder injuries to the small light weight shoulder pads that players like.  I also believe the artificial playing surfaces have a big impact on the rate of injury around the league.


i think all of these are very fair 

 

I might also speculate that this generation of player may be more open to missing time for injury. We saw some horrific stories 20 years ago with what guys played through. While I still think guys play through terrible injuries - I also applaud missing time for head injuries now and bet at least a portion of guys are more apt to be cautious with joints, muscles etc healing properly? 
 

im not saying everyone or that it’s a bad thing but at the very least - I think there is some change around the margins there. The classic, would tua have missed weeks on end 30 years ago? Are there equivalents with other injuries? Probably. 

3 hours ago, Billsfan585 said:

But the league just changed the kickoffs to make them safe.  They’ve changed several rules in the last 5 years for player safety.  How are there still record breaking amounts of injuries?  Weird. 


 

define the measurement of that, I suppose. 
 

are guys more injured or more willing to disclose injuries that were occurring, for instance?

 

add in the game being faster and also played by bigger guys and…. 

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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:


i think all of these are very fair 

 

I might also speculate that this generation of player may be more open to missing time for injury. We saw some horrific stories 20 years ago with what guys played through. While I still think guys play through terrible injuries - I also applaud missing time for head injuries now and bet at least a portion of guys are more apt to be cautious with joints, muscles etc healing properly? 
 

im not saying everyone or that it’s a bad thing but at the very least - I think there is some change around the margins there. The classic, would tua have missed weeks on end 30 years ago? Are there equivalents with other injuries? Probably. 


 

define the measurement of that, I suppose. 
 

are guys more injured or more willing to disclose injuries that were occurring, for instance?

 

add in the game being faster and also played by bigger guys and…. 

I was gonna say that we don’t even have to go to 20 years ago, because I remember the juxtaposition of Phil Rivers finishing a game on a torn ACL (awesome but also probably not a good idea) and Jay Cutler getting killed because he couldn’t go on a sprained knee in the playoffs, but both of those are kinda close to 20 years ago now and that ruined it for me. 

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less pre season to get in the groove and more real games is gonna have this impact.

 

schematically the o was eating the d's lunch for a few years, and now the d's have figured it out, but there is a gap between the white board and the grid iron.  coaches have more tools and data and are doing more than ever (remember when top coaches would just run their scheme all the time and never adjust and would pile up strong records?  now most coaches have more looks and more ability to adapt than before).  but the players practice less and easier, do less as a team in the offseason, and don't get the warm ups they did before and play more games.  the result is poorer execution.

 

i hate the refs and laundry days worth of flats ruin games, but some of these games are shocking.  i watched the chargers vs jets, it was raining but my gosh was it a slop fest.  the ball was falling out of guys hands, i counted a dozen pre snap penalties between the two teams, and they execution was weak when it did happen.  two bad os and two good ds, but it did not look how a pro football game should look.

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teams get injuries.  And all fans of each team complain about it, as if they’re the only ones.  
 

it’s a rough hard game.  

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