Coach Tuesday Posted October 4 Posted October 4 He seems plodding to me. I question his offseason commitment. 1 4 Quote
Gugny Posted October 4 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, Negan said: Long season, give it time. Low and slow. From this point forward, we shall call him “brisket.” 3 Quote
MJS Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) Sophomore slump. Hopefully, he takes that next step in year 3. I'm hopeful he can put things together for the rest of the season, though. Edited October 4 by MJS Quote
uticaclub Posted October 4 Posted October 4 3 hours ago, Conlan58 said: This is like people pissing and moaning about Spencer Brown all over again. Hasn't this coaching staff shown they put the best 5 out there, and give them live reps to learn and grow on the fly? Let me guess, you think the rookie 5th rounder should get a look? God help this place if we lose to the texans... Brown was a liability in 2022 & potentially kept us from winning a Super Bowl by getting Josh pressured and not being able to run block. Hes be solid since, but Brown held the team back when he struggled. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 4 Posted October 4 4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Appears to me that he's lost a step. He's just trying to make Josh feel less self conscious about it 3 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted October 4 Posted October 4 The Bills are 3-1 and until less than a week ago were considered far and away the most potent offense in the league….and we have a problem at Guard? Really? 1 2 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted October 4 Posted October 4 19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The Bills are 3-1 and until less than a week ago were considered far and away the most potent offense in the league….and we have a problem at Guard? Really? Top team problems, gotta complain about something. 2 1 Quote
colin Posted October 4 Posted October 4 48 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He seems plodding to me. I question his offseason commitment. He's a bit of a fat body. He could lose 20# of pure slop and still be one of the bigger and stronger guys in the NFL. Our oline seems to me to dominate when they know what to expect, and just bad when they get confused or tricked. even in games they dominated, like vs miami, a couple stunts had edge rushers up the gut just unblocked. i think our biggest issues with both lines is scheme/preparation. when they are dialed in they look great, and the fall off is just huge when they are not. i've always felt like our team under mcd is a bit of smoke and mirrors. i've waxed poetic about the d enough, but i do think brady was caught pants down vs baltimore. we failed to exploit the clear weaknesses of their d. i'm hoping he's learned form it and gets it righted. if we recall last season, we had some real weak sinkers on O (the chargers game really stands out) where we were struggling to score points. in the playoffs our o looked great vs pittz and kc, but the team came up short. so far this season, we have 24 quarters of football. 2+ are basically non quarters because we had starters sitting in blow out wins, 2 quarters to start vs zona were pretty awful, and 4 quarters vs baltimore were trash. So 16 of the 24 quarters we have seen what looks like elite production, but vs craptacular teams. we need some guys to really emerge for me not to think we are smoke and mirrors with an all world talent at qb. 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I think the loss of a steady and experienced center like Mitch Morse is a factor here as well. Reasonable supposition. Could also be an injury involved. But also could be some regression. I'm hopeful but something's wrong. 37 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Brown was a liability in 2022 & potentially kept us from winning a Super Bowl by getting Josh pressured and not being able to run block. Hes be solid since, but Brown held the team back when he struggled. Brown was recovering from a pretty serious back injury and surgery. It happens. 2 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 4 Posted October 4 7 hours ago, Special K said: I was really expecting OCT to take that next step this year and elevate his game. He played terrible vs the Ravens and Cardinals, and average vs the Fins and Jags. I'm no online expert, and I haven't written him off by any means, but it looks like it will take a little longer for him to become the dominant RG I believe he can be. Thoughts?? It takes OL a little bit sometimes, Spencer Brown is coming into his own in year 3. 1 Quote
finn Posted October 4 Posted October 4 46 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Brown was a liability in 2022 & potentially kept us from winning a Super Bowl by getting Josh pressured and not being able to run block. Hes be solid since, but Brown held the team back when he struggled. That's the point I was going to make. Easy to call for patience/let him learn on the job, but if he's hurting the team, as Brown did for years, then it's legitimate to question his place in the starting lineup. I'd say it's still a bit early to bench him, especially given the importance of line chemistry, but I'd let him know he's on a short leash. 2 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 4 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: He seems plodding to me. I question his offseason commitment. it looks like he has taken several steps…. To the buffet line. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted October 4 Posted October 4 3 minutes ago, finn said: That's the point I was going to make. Easy to call for patience/let him learn on the job, but if he's hurting the team, as Brown did for years, then it's legitimate to question his place in the starting lineup. I'd say it's still a bit early to bench him, especially given the importance of line chemistry, but I'd let him know he's on a short leash. But, trust the process Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 4 Posted October 4 15 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: It takes OL a little bit sometimes, Spencer Brown is coming into his own in year 3. Year 4 technically, but that further reinforces your point. 1 Quote
bigK14094 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 Kromer is on the case. It will get resolved in a positive manner I think. 3 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 4 Posted October 4 So are him and Josh walking hand in hand then? Quote
Brand J Posted October 4 Posted October 4 I believe Torrence was owner of the dubious “PFF 34/34 Guards” graphic on SNF. The last rated right guard in the entire league. Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Possibly but some of the issues he is having showed up on tape late last year too. He has a particular weakness to speed rushers attacking his inside shoulder. I was really hoping Kromer would help him mitigate that somewhat / find some coping techniques during the offseason but so far it sustains. I think that is why his best 6 NFL games were his first six. Once teams saw that weakness and began increasingly to target it he has started to struggle. I think there is possibly a confidence concern right now as well. But fundamentally if you wanna have a brawl with Cybo he will brawl you and hold his own. If you can win before it becomes a brawl he is in trouble. EDIT: should say the issues v Baltimore might be more Morse related because the Bills were beaten mentally more than physically. The Ravens confused them and they were struggling to work out who was coming and pass off rushers. Wasn't that the knock on him coming out as well? Vulnerable to speed rush on the interior? Quote
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