iccrewman112 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 hours ago, The Helmet of said: Bills don’t want to give up that second round pick… but they could be persuaded. Vikings turning that early 2nd rounder into a pick in the 60s. It gets less liable each week. 1 Quote
CSBill Posted October 10 Posted October 10 I woke up early to realize it was another Davante-less day in Buffalo. I have Ertz-like depression going on--and that is pretty low on the PHQ-9 scale. 3 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 10 Posted October 10 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don’t see the fit in Buffalo. Yeah, I tend to agree. I just don’t see how this offense could use, a future HOF, boundary receiver. I mean, what are they thinking?!? This thought better not take snaps away from Mack Hollins!! That guy doesn’t even like to wear shoes. 1 4 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 10 Posted October 10 https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/schefter-davante-adams-trade-unlikely-to-occur-this-week/ Here’s how Davante is traded to us by next Tuesday: 1. Raiders beat Steelers 2. Bucs beat Carr-less Saints 3. We pound the Jets It will then be clear to Davante that in terms of winning, Buffalo should be his preferred destination. There’s one less week of salary to figure out then too, although Vegas will still need to absorb a good amount depending on if his deal is reworked in some way. Only question is if we pound the Jets, will we have less urgency to trade for him then? Quote
MikePJ76 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 From Joe B at the athletic https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5825498/2024/10/07/bills-wide-receiver-trade-cases-deadline/ The Carolina Panthers are looking at yet another lost season, and even though they just traded for Diontae Johnson, 28, in the offseason, it might be more worthwhile to move him and collect a young asset in the form of a draft pick. From an on-field perspective, he’s an electric route runner who gains ample separation while slotting in perfectly to meet the current need at Z-receiver. His ability to win underneath is outstanding, and in a two-high-shell-dominated NFL world, Johnson could be a target sponge with an elite quarterback. The biggest thing standing in the Bills’ way is that Johnson is in the final year of his contract. He also has a higher cost because of his relatively young age compared to the other top receivers potentially on the market. There would be no guarantee of anything past 2024 if they did it, and that’s a slight risk for Beane and his roster. However, they could look at it as a “try before you buy” situation to see how Johnson meshes with the room and, more importantly, Allen. Johnson’s cap hit is not prohibitive enough for them to rule it out, either. They can make it work. It all depends on trade cost and their willingness to take a slight risk with Johnson unsigned in 2025. Diontae Johnson trade cap hits WRPre-Week 6Pre-Week 7Pre-Week 8Pre-Week 9Pre-Week 10In-Season Money OwedProrated Rate Diontae Johnson $4,941,176.47 $4,529,411.76 $4,117,647.06 $3,705,882.35 $3,294,117.65 $7,000,000 $411,764.71 (Over the Cap) Verdict: Keep an eye on this one. Johnson has the type of talent to invest in and has several in-prime years remaining. If they’re going for a one-year rental type, it’d be worth seeing how he fits in with the Bills and whether it warrants a contract extension as a pillar player. He could be a star with Allen as his quarterback. 1 Quote
DJB Posted October 10 Posted October 10 16 hours ago, Doc Brown said: They have Garrett Wilson. We're more desperate. At least we should be. It’s about pleasing Rodgers and I’m sure Douglas is feeling way more pressure than Beane. That’s why they are more desperate Quote
MikePJ76 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Joe B on Jakobi Myers. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5825498/2024/10/07/bills-wide-receiver-trade-cases-deadline/ What if I told you the other Raiders receiver has the most compelling case from a Bills perspective? Adams is the flashier name, but Jakobi Meyers might be the best fit for what could benefit the Bills the most in the short term, along with satisfying Beane’s usual lean of deadline deals. Meyers can separate and knows how to find open space against a defense. He has never been a dazzling player, nor is he the first name people would think of for a potential receiver solution. But he’s a good player with the skill set to thrive in an offense with Allen as his quarterback. Meyers, 27, would work most frequently at Z-receiver within the offense, allowing Coleman to play his natural role at X-receiver and keeping Shakir at slot receiver. The financial feasibility of it all takes this fit from good to great. If acquired ahead of the New York Jets game, Meyers would count only $3.4 million on the cap for the rest of 2024 due to proration. The Bills can find the minimal cap space they’d need to bring him on. And what takes the fit from great to excellent is that Meyers has another manageable season ($10.5 million) on his contract that the Bills could hang on to for 2025, which, as we saw with Rasul Douglas last year, Beane prefers in trades. Jakobi Meyers trade cap hits WRPre-Week 6Pre-Week 7Pre-Week 8Pre-Week 9Pre-Week 10In-Season Money OwedProrated Rate Jakobi Meyers $3,709,411.76 $3,400,294.12 $3,091,176.47 $2,782,058.82 $2,472,941.18 $5,255,000 $309,117.65 (Over the Cap) Verdict: If the Raiders are selling, Meyers is one of the best options out there that meets the team’s needs and cap concerns while being more than just a one-year rental. 1 Quote
Lost Posted October 10 Posted October 10 7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: From Joe B at the athletic https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5825498/2024/10/07/bills-wide-receiver-trade-cases-deadline/ The Carolina Panthers are looking at yet another lost season, and even though they just traded for Diontae Johnson, 28, in the offseason, it might be more worthwhile to move him and collect a young asset in the form of a draft pick. From an on-field perspective, he’s an electric route runner who gains ample separation while slotting in perfectly to meet the current need at Z-receiver. His ability to win underneath is outstanding, and in a two-high-shell-dominated NFL world, Johnson could be a target sponge with an elite quarterback. The biggest thing standing in the Bills’ way is that Johnson is in the final year of his contract. He also has a higher cost because of his relatively young age compared to the other top receivers potentially on the market. There would be no guarantee of anything past 2024 if they did it, and that’s a slight risk for Beane and his roster. However, they could look at it as a “try before you buy” situation to see how Johnson meshes with the room and, more importantly, Allen. Johnson’s cap hit is not prohibitive enough for them to rule it out, either. They can make it work. It all depends on trade cost and their willingness to take a slight risk with Johnson unsigned in 2025. Diontae Johnson trade cap hits WRPre-Week 6Pre-Week 7Pre-Week 8Pre-Week 9Pre-Week 10In-Season Money OwedProrated Rate Diontae Johnson $4,941,176.47 $4,529,411.76 $4,117,647.06 $3,705,882.35 $3,294,117.65 $7,000,000 $411,764.71 (Over the Cap) Verdict: Keep an eye on this one. Johnson has the type of talent to invest in and has several in-prime years remaining. If they’re going for a one-year rental type, it’d be worth seeing how he fits in with the Bills and whether it warrants a contract extension as a pillar player. He could be a star with Allen as his quarterback. Considering the Bills only deal with Carolina and the Giants, this unfortunately seems like it has more probability of happing than I would like. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Just now, Lost said: Considering the Bills only deal with Carolina and the Giants, this unfortunately seems like it has more probability of happing than I would like. They made trades with Green Bay, KC and Houston in the last year. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Buffalo is Out. FWIW This is what I was told. The person is not a Bills fan. They have good connections. “Devante has asked the Raiders not to trade him to Buffalo and his agent told Buffalo he wouldn’t rework his contract. Trade is off. Literally happened the last part of the night.” Our offer to LV was a 2nd, 5th and multiple players 1 1 1 6 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Buffalo is Out. FWIW This is what I was told. The person is not a Bills fan. They have good connections. “Devante has asked the Raiders not to trade him to Buffalo and his agent told Buffalo he wouldn’t rework his contract. Trade is off. Literally happened the last part of the night.” Our offer to LV was a 2nd, 5th and multiple players If all that is true, at least Beane knows that he has to do something. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10 Posted October 10 3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/schefter-davante-adams-trade-unlikely-to-occur-this-week/ Here’s how Davante is traded to us by next Tuesday: 1. Raiders beat Steelers 2. Bucs beat Carr-less Saints 3. We pound the Jets It will then be clear to Davante that in terms of winning, Buffalo should be his preferred destination. There’s one less week of salary to figure out then too, although Vegas will still need to absorb a good amount depending on if his deal is reworked in some way. Only question is if we pound the Jets, will we have less urgency to trade for him then? I think winning is a minor part and him going off statistically is the major part if I had to guess lol even with a great boundary receiver I think Buffalo still spreads the ball around which might be what he’s worried about Quote
Success Posted October 10 Posted October 10 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Buffalo is Out. FWIW This is what I was told. The person is not a Bills fan. They have good connections. “Devante has asked the Raiders not to trade him to Buffalo and his agent told Buffalo he wouldn’t rework his contract. Trade is off. Literally happened the last part of the night.” Our offer to LV was a 2nd, 5th and multiple players I wonder why Adams would say no to a generational QB. Is he still mad at Rapp? The cold? The other teams in the mix are much less likely to contend for a title. Quote
Playoffs? Posted October 10 Posted October 10 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Buffalo is Out. FWIW This is what I was told. The person is not a Bills fan. They have good connections. “Devante has asked the Raiders not to trade him to Buffalo and his agent told Buffalo he wouldn’t rework his contract. Trade is off. Literally happened the last part of the night.” Our offer to LV was a 2nd, 5th and multiple players So it’s coming down to money? Or he just doesn’t want to be in Buffalo? Quote
Low Positive Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Just now, Success said: I wonder why Adams would say no to a generational QB. Is he still mad at Rapp? The cold? The other teams in the mix are much less likely to contend for a title. Not everyone is about winning. He wants to be comfortable and play with his friends. He went to a non-contending Raiders team to play with his college roommate. 3 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Not looking forward to watching this group of WR not get open, drop passes and force Josh to hang around with the ball and get hurt. I check this thread constantly, not exactly because of Adam's but more for the hope of getting him or anyone that can work the outside. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Success said: I wonder why Adams would say no to a generational QB. Is he still mad at Rapp? The cold? The other teams in the mix are much less likely to contend for a title. Sounds like a LARP to me personally. Why wouldn’t he rework his deal? Bills would increase his future pay if anything. Also players and picks for a player doesn’t sound like beane at all to me or maybe it’s real and one side is playing hardball Edited October 10 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, CSBill said: I woke up early to realize it was another Davante-less day in Buffalo. I have Ertz-like depression going on--and that is pretty low on the PHQ-9 scale. I doubt anyone is trading for Adams until he shows he is recovered from the Hammy. You don’t generally see players hurt get traded while hurt. Could happen, but I am guessing it’s going to be at least another week before we see where he is going. Edited October 10 by Alphadawg7 Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted October 10 Posted October 10 9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Buffalo is Out. FWIW This is what I was told. The person is not a Bills fan. They have good connections. “Devante has asked the Raiders not to trade him to Buffalo and his agent told Buffalo he wouldn’t rework his contract. Trade is off. Literally happened the last part of the night.” Our offer to LV was a 2nd, 5th and multiple players We are onto Cooper - rename the thread! lol 1 Quote
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