Lost Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And yeah, I just don’t think Beane is gonna throw away a premium pick in first 4 rounds for a half year rental unless he believes that one player could put us over the top for a SB. Beane hoarding mid round picks like 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Lost said: Beane twobillsdrive posters hoarding mid round picks like ffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) What Dianna’s Hearing: The teams talking Davante Adams (so far) Davante Adams is waiting on Las Vegas to trade him as he nurses a hamstring injury. The Raiders receiver is not expected to be active against the Broncos this week amidst the dialogue. As of now, the Jets, Steelers, and Saints are the teams in contact with the Raiders’ front office to discuss trade scenarios. Though that doesn’t mean teams like Buffalo and Kansas City aren’t interested; those two, specifically, are monitoring the situation and willing to get aggressive if the Raiders are willing to pay some of Adams’ contract. As one GM pointed out: “The money is a lot, and so is the money moving forward.” Below, Jacob dives deeper into the situation. Buffalo Bills Offer: A 2025 third-round pick and CB Kaiir Elam for Adams and a 2025 seventh-round pick The Bills have had promising early returns on slot receiver Khalil Shakir, rookie Keon Coleman and tight end Dalton Kincaid. However, the rest of the receiver group rings hollow without a prominent top option. In a quest to reach the Super Bowl in a wide-open AFC, they could use a receiver of Adams’ caliber, if only for one season, to complete an already-imposing offense. As for the offer, the Bills have some draft picks to play with in 2025 but only a little cap space ($3.2 million) and are low on contracts to restructure. If the Raiders were willing to eat the majority of Adams’ remaining base salary, the Bills could make it work. — Joe Buscaglia Edited October 3 by MikePJ76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 mike knows the deal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Would be very Buffalo Bills to trade for Buddha Baker to save the S room instead of WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I'd take Baker over Adams but we don't get either. I don't know what the right answer is. I hate "reset" years with elite QB's 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: What Dianna’s Hearing: The teams talking Davante Adams (so far) Davante Adams is waiting on Las Vegas to trade him as he nurses a hamstring injury. The Raiders receiver is not expected to be active against the Broncos this week amidst the dialogue. As of now, the Jets, Steelers, and Saints are the teams in contact with the Raiders’ front office to discuss trade scenarios. Though that doesn’t mean teams like Buffalo and Kansas City aren’t interested; those two, specifically, are monitoring the situation and willing to get aggressive if the Raiders are willing to pay some of Adams’ contract. As one GM pointed out: “The money is a lot, and so is the money moving forward.” Below, Jacob dives deeper into the situation. Buffalo Bills Offer: A 2025 third-round pick and CB Kaiir Elam for Adams and a 2025 seventh-round pick The Bills have had promising early returns on slot receiver Khalil Shakir, rookie Keon Coleman and tight end Dalton Kincaid. However, the rest of the receiver group rings hollow without a prominent top option. In a quest to reach the Super Bowl in a wide-open AFC, they could use a receiver of Adams’ caliber, if only for one season, to complete an already-imposing offense. As for the offer, the Bills have some draft picks to play with in 2025 but only a little cap space ($3.2 million) and are low on contracts to restructure. If the Raiders were willing to eat the majority of Adams’ remaining base salary, the Bills could make it work. — Joe Buscaglia You are kind of becoming a troll. Provide links, and provide support for your takes, or you'll quickly get added to everyone's ignore list. Here is the link, folks: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5811325/2024/10/02/davante-adams-trade-offers-raiders-jets-steelers/ The above is just Joe B.'s thought experiment, not an actual offer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 50 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If we really wanted to land Adams, here’s my “Madden” trade idea: 2025 2nd rd pick Samuel Elam other draft pick compensation If we can get Samuel and Elam off our books in exchange for Adams, are we able to stay within our cap? How much value does either player at their current contracts even bring to the table for the Raiders? What additional draft compensation would we need to throw into the deal? I think it might actually work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Would be very Buffalo Bills to trade for Buddha Baker to save the S room instead of WR. of course it would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: ffy Nah...this is incorrect...its Beane. Most people here are willing to give up picks more than Beane is. He has talked in length about the importance of the picks, building talent through the draft as a strategy to manage the cap, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 56 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If we really wanted to land Adams, here’s my “Madden” trade idea: 2025 2nd rd pick Samuel Elam other draft pick compensation If we can get Samuel and Elam off our books in exchange for Adams, are we able to stay within our cap? How much value does either player at their current contracts even bring to the table for the Raiders? What additional draft compensation would we need to throw into the deal? So the issue is samuels cap hit rises even if he's traded because he has a prorated signing bonus of 6.9M. You cannot trade a signing bonus, and it all gets moved up to the current season when hes on the roster. Elam would go down a little, but he still has another signing bonus that would need to be fronted as well. Adams has a 16.8M salary that you'd acquire, and you can only lower it by adding void years. He has 2 years and 70M left so you can probably lower the salary this year to accommodate void years, but there isn't anything you can do with Elam or Samuel, and buffalo is tight against the cap. A 2nd for a rental is steep too. I know thats what we got for diggs, but offseason and deadline trades are different. Only way i move a 2nd is if i consider him the piece to put the team over the top. We'd still have a need at WR next season, CB, S, DE, etc. They need a lot of picks and financial flexibility. Edited October 3 by Bleeding Bills Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: So the issue is samuels cap hit rises even if he's traded because he has a prorated signing bonus of 6.9M. You cannot trade a signing bonus, and it all gets moved up to the current season when hes on the roster. Elam would go down a little, but he still has another signing bonus that would need to be fronted as well. Adams has a 16.8M salary that you'd acquire, and you can only lower it by adding void years. He has 2 years and 70M left so you can probably lower the salary this year to accommodate void years, but there isn't anything you can do with Elam or Samuel, and buffalo is tight against the cap. Simple, redo Joshes contract. Use the savings to bring in Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: So the issue is samuels cap hit rises even if he's traded because he has a prorated signing bonus of 6.9M. You cannot trade a signing bonus, and it all gets moved up to the current season when hes on the roster. Elam would go down a little, but he still has another signing bonus that would need to be fronted as well. Adams has a 16.8M salary that you'd acquire, and you can only lower it by adding void years. He has 2 years and 70M left so you can probably lower the salary this year to accommodate void years, but there isn't anything you can do with Elam or Samuel, and buffalo is tight against the cap. Thanks, didn’t appreciate how the signing bonus element is working for those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Nah...this is incorrect...its Beane. Most people here are willing to give up picks more than Beane is. He has talked in length about the importance of the picks, building talent through the draft as a strategy to manage the cap, etc. he traded a first round pick+ for stefon diggs he traded a third rounder+ for kelvin benjamin ffs why pretend he isnt willing to trade picks for wideouts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: mike knows the deal. Not giving up much for Budda tbh as he’s a FA next year and is playing on the club option because a contract extension couldn’t be worked out prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, GoBills808 said: he traded a first round pick+ for stefon diggs he traded a third rounder+ for kelvin benjamin ffs why pretend he isnt willing to trade picks for wideouts Traded up for Kincaid and Elam as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 It’s a lot of bread & cheddar to throw around for a WR who’s on the wrong side of 30? Just imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Sojourner said: Not giving up much for Budda tbh as he’s a FA next year and is playing on the club option because a contract extension couldn’t be worked out prior. well yea of course. I am not a fan of giving up high picks they are just to valuable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: well yea of course. I am not a fan of giving up high picks they are just to valuable. right those high picks could turn out to be great players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, SCBills said: I think it’s pretty clear that we did not intend on trading Diggs this year. It was a deteriorating situation, but all sides were just going to make it work while Beane was listening to offers. The offer would have to blow him away though. Texans offering the Vikings 2, which before the season anyone would’ve thought could’ve a Top 40 pick met that criteria. And you can’t just say your WR room is meh .. so you put a good label on it. Aka “everybody eats”. Now Beane is looking around the AFC.. and seeing what this defense can be once we get healthy (and off suspension) and it’s not shocking that he’s going to be open to a WR, whether Adams or someone else. This team as constructed this year was supposed to have a Diggs as part of it. It is extremely concerning that this organization, with all the plaudits they receive, did not have a plan about what to do with Diggs coming out of their off-season review. They waffled on the issue, then Beane (as @Kirby Jackson noted) was seemingly reassured that their WR group would work. Only slight disagreement I have is that they signed Quintez Cephus and MVS both after they draft so they still had concerns. In that way I agree, they were looking for "lightning in a bottle" with additional bargain bin signings. WR is just not a priority for them in the off-season...and then perhaps 4 games in it is now? Makes me further their commitment to "complementary football." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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