Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams

[Sojourner]

22 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Maxx Crosby sounded like he was  disgruntled as well. Please gauge the interest!! Maxx is a game changer, defensively 

brother… if there’s any player I’d take in a heartbeat, no thought needed, it would be mad maxx. 

[MikePJ76]

what does this mean?

 

 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

what does this mean?

 

 

I guess Tyreek likes to sleep in. 

[Sojourner]

7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

what does this mean?

 

 

Maybe they’re getting a QB?

 

in all seriousness, I read this from mike florio the other day after the whole rashee rice information and thought it might actually be something both teams consider come week 8 depending on where the respective teams are at offensively and in terms of divisional/league standings. 

Edited October 2 by Sojourner

[MikePJ76]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

 

 

they didn't get Aiyuk either 

8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

what does this mean?

 

 

 

It means the Bills are acquiring Tyreek for a 1st & 3rd, only for the Mr. Goodell to immediately suspend Hill for 8 games upon his arrival in Buffalo! 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And despite all that - which is true - he has more yards than our guys. That isn't disputable. That is my point - a guy who we all agree the Bills were right to give up on has better stats than our guys. So it is hard to argue we got better. Even given the context. 

 

As for robbing the Texans.... looks much more like that pick will almost be a third rounder than almost a first rounder at this point. Is a late 2nd in a draft one year removed still a Bills win? I think so. But it isn't quite robbery.

 

See this is where you and I are disconnected...which is fine, but this really shows it more clearly.

 

Yes he has 2 more yards...that is indisputable.  Him having "better stats" is where I think it is definitely disputable.  His efficiency is terrible and has a YPC that would be bad for even a back up TE.  Not to mention, he had almost a game and a half worth of additional offensive snaps while his team has struggled all 4 weeks.  His team got blown out the one game he was featured, which is also where he got literally 40% of his yards in that one game of a blowout loss.  He has really not been relevant or done much to help his team since his 2 short TD's week 1.  

 

I do agree that if Minnesota keeps playing at this high level and that pick becomes a very late 2nd, then it really isn't robbery and closer to balanced.  When Minny was expected to be bad with what people expected the QB situation to be, a pick inside the top 10 of the 2nd would have felt more like we got over on Houston in that deal for what may just be a one year rental for them.  But that looks pretty unlikely right now unless the old Darnold shows up.  

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Not doing something is probably going to come back to bite us. I know we never do the big splash move but it’s probably necessary now more then ever

[Savage]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

Don't the Bills have a lot of money coming off the books after the season so they will be in much better shape with the cap to be aggressive in FA next offseason.

Regardless,

 

figure out a way to get it done.

 

just being good enough, isn’t good enough.

 

JA17 is getting beat up, slowly, but surely.

 

In another few years, his game won’t be the same as it now, and I don’t think he has the discipline or personality to change it, and I love that about him.

 

 

 

[FireChans]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And despite all that - which is true - he has more yards than our guys. That isn't disputable. That is my point - a guy who we all agree the Bills were right to give up on has better stats than our guys. So it is hard to argue we got better. Even given the context. 

 

As for robbing the Texans.... looks much more like that pick will almost be a third rounder than almost a first rounder at this point. Is a late 2nd in a draft one year removed still a Bills win? I think so. But it isn't quite robbery.

It's a long season. But Diggs after this season isn't going to have second round value. He will have late third or even 4th round value.

 

I think we cut bait when his value was the highest it will be going forward.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Not doing something is probably going to come back to bite us. I know we never do the big splash move but it’s probably necessary now more then ever

 

It doesn't have to be this player.  It's too bad Seattle is 3-1. I doubt they have any interest in Moving Metcalf.

I'd gladly take Cooper.   

 

Adams of course has the "star power" not sure how much he has left.  I haven't watched the Raiders yet this season 

 

It would be very exciting and intriguing if we acquired him....but I suspect the Jets or Saints will 

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Not doing something is probably going to come back to bite us. I know we never do the big splash move but it’s probably necessary now more then ever

 

I think Beane has shown a willingness to make a splash move, but also I think he has shown restraint to do things that will hinder us moving forward more often than not.  So I don't think he will avoid making a move if he feels its a difference making move, but he also won't want to do something that screws his cap up the next couple years if it isn't something he feels could really deliver a SB this season.

 

Personally, I think the timing is wrong.  Bills looked like the best team in the NFL first 3 weeks then got destroyed by Balt...so right now its a big question if this team is a true SB contender or more like Miami was last year where we beat up on weak opposition but are not truly one of the elite teams in the AFC.  But if the Bills go out and win these next two games for example, then I think more confidence will build this team could win it all this year and maybe Beane is more willing to make an all in type move before the deadline.  

 

Just my 2 cents.

[Allen2Moulds]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And despite all that - which is true - he has more yards than our guys. That isn't disputable. That is my point - a guy who we all agree the Bills were right to give up on has better stats than our guys. So it is hard to argue we got better. Even given the context. 

 

As for robbing the Texans.... looks much more like that pick will almost be a third rounder than almost a first rounder at this point. Is a late 2nd in a draft one year removed still a Bills win? I think so. But it isn't quite robbery.

Overpay would be the better word.  At the time of the trade, and even now, I felt it was the right decision to trade Diggs. That being said, I don't feel the Bills have done enough to replace Diggs and Gabe.  I didn't like the Keon Coleman pick, because of all the talk that he struggles to separate.  Although that might be overstated, the truth is probably in the middle.  I have grown to like him, but I view him more as a Gabe Davis replacement, as opposed to a Diggs replacement.  I remember leaving that Chiefs game saying to myself, we need to add some speed on offense, and that was with Diggs on the field (minus Gabe).  For the first time ever, I remember saying to myself that we miss Gabe, although I'm not sure he would've done much.  The other thing that we have to be able to adjust to is that the playoffs is a different brand of football.  Guys get away with a lot more contact, being grabby....ect.   I believe this is why Diggs struggled in the playoffs the last couple of years.  I like the size Keon brings, but we are still missing the speed element.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Overpay would be the better word.  At the time of the trade, and even now, I felt it was the right decision to trade Diggs. That being said, I don't feel the Bills have done enough to replace Diggs and Gabe.  I didn't like the Keon Coleman pick, because of all the talk that he struggles to separate.  Although that might be overstated, the truth is probably in the middle.  I have grown to like him, but I view him more as a Gabe Davis replacement, as opposed to a Diggs replacement.  I remember leaving that Chiefs game saying to myself, we need to add some speed on offense, and that was with Diggs on the field (minus Gabe).  For the first time ever, I remember saying to myself that we miss Gabe, although I'm not sure he would've done much.  The other thing that we have to be able to adjust to is that the playoffs is a different brand of football.  Guys get away with a lot more contact, being grabby....ect.   I believe this is why Diggs struggled in the playoffs the last couple of years.  I like the size Keon brings, but we are still missing the speed element.

 

I largely agree with this. I have said the same about Keon. He is a potential Gabe upgrade as the #2.

[MikePJ76]

Interesting to see if Dallas gets impatient over the next week with their wr situation.  If they traded for adams and had two 30 million dollar wr's on the team that seems like a really really bad move.  

 

 

[Allen2Moulds]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I think Beane has shown a willingness to make a splash move, but also I think he has shown restraint to do things that will hinder us moving forward more often than not.  So I don't think he will avoid making a move if he feels its a difference making move, but he also won't want to do something that screws his cap up the next couple years if it isn't something he feels could really deliver a SB this season.

 

Personally, I think the timing is wrong.  Bills looked like the best team in the NFL first 3 weeks then got destroyed by Balt...so right now its a big question if this team is a true SB contender or more like Miami was last year where we beat up on weak opposition but are not truly one of the elite teams in the AFC.  But if the Bills go out and win these next two games for example, then I think more confidence will build this team could win it all this year and maybe Beane is more willing to make an all in type move before the deadline.  

 

Just my 2 cents.

Last year was the first year that I felt we had a good enough offensive line to win a Superbowl.  I can't say I have the same confidence in our defensive line.  It always feels like we are missing that run stuffing specialist.  I know that we were plagued with injuries at LB in the playoff game against the Chiefs, and I believe we were also missing Benford, althought I can't quite remember.  That being said, throughout the McDermott era, there's been stretches where teams will run the ball down our throats over and over again, and it just seems that the common theme, is an undersized dline that gets bullied. It happened in the Chiefs playoff game, and obviously against Baltimore as well.  I agree with undersized LB's, as it helps with todays game, but why can't we build a bigger dline. 

[That's No Moon]

6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Interesting to see if Dallas gets impatient over the next week with their wr situation.  If they traded for adams and had two 30 million dollar wr's on the team that seems like a really really bad move.  

 

 

An infection like that ended Leonard Smiths career. Staph is no joke.

[Low Positive]

Just now, That's No Moon said:

An infection like that ended Leonard Smiths career. Staph is no joke.

Staph from a sweaty shinguard probably cost the Sabres a Stanley Cup, for those that care about such things.

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Low Positive said:

Staph from a sweaty shinguard probably cost the Sabres a Stanley Cup, for those that care about such things.

Hence, when my kid played I was fanatical about cleaning his gear.

[Not at the table Karlos]

19 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

It’ll be hilarious if we acquire him after his comments against the fanbase fairly recently😆

His comments were spot on. People throwing snowballs are trash. If they get upset oh well stop being a POS.