Matt_In_NH Posted October 1 Posted October 1 4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Kicker. Bass is on a fast decline. Getting worse from distance with every year his leg ages. Most kickers make it 4 years in the NFL. Bass is in year 5, and is not as good as he was year 1. Justin Tucker is in decline, but he’s almost 35 years old and started out with a much stronger leg than Bass. Let’s take out FGs under 40 yards, because an NFL kicker should make these in their sleep. Bass career 40+ Reg 41/55 = 74.5% Playoffs 5/9 = 55.9% Total 40+ 46/64 = 71.9% Butker (KC) Reg 79/99 = 79.7% Playoffs 13/16 = 81.3% Total 40+ 92/115 = 80.0% McPherson (CIN) Reg 49/64 = 76.6% Playoffs 5/5 = 100% Total 40+ 54/69 = 78.3% Tucker (BAL) Reg 175/218 = 80.3% Playoffs 8/12 = 66.7% Total 40+ 183/230 = 79.6% In a league of 1-score games teams can’t afford a kicker who is -8% worse than top competition. Bass cost us 1 playoff game. And the chances are he will cost us a game or two every season at his rate of success. Ok Bass is not as good as those guys. We already knew that and they are not available. What about guys the bills could sign? Or the rest of the league so we know where bass really stands. Quote
Sweats Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I said kicker.......Bass is getting a little stinky and its time to throw him back into the river. 1 Quote
PonyBoy Posted October 1 Posted October 1 7 hours ago, US Egg said: CHEERLEADERS. Your Welcome everybody! https://www.miamidolphins.com/cheerleaders/roster/ Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1 Posted October 1 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I took it as now. And I went receiver because I think that is the most realistic option. They are generally the pieces you see a non-competitive team heading for a rebuild shed first. I wouldn't hate safety as an option because we just don't have NFL starting level players on the roster at that spot, but who is giving away a clear upgrade starting level safety? I can't immediately thing of guys who are on likely bottom feeding teams that could come available. I think safety is as big a need as anything else in the offseason though. Hopefully Bishop comes on some and we are only looking for one starting level guy. I never liked how they handled the spot in the offseason. I wanted Edwards and Bishop as the safeties before the year. Rapp’s contract probably assured him of one of the spots but maybe I’ll get my wish now. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I wanted Edwards and Bishop as the safeties before the year. Rapp’s contract probably assured him of one of the spots but maybe I’ll get my wish now. Yea they were in my view the best hope of a duo that could at least hold their end up. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1 Posted October 1 The answer is (shockingly) WR. That’s the weakest position group on the team and there are viable options, potentially, on the market. They still need a boundary WR that wins consistently at the top of their depth chart. They can plug that hole, even if temporarily, with Adams or Cooper. If they just add a guy, like Dionte Johnson for example, it still vastly improves the WR room. I think Kicker is the position that “scares me” the most. I’ve been a supporter of Bass from day 1. He’s just lost his confidence or something. It just seems too difficult to upgrade kicker in season. Who gets rid of good kickers? They can maybe try to get McManus but otherwise that’s a position to target in the draft. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 1 Posted October 1 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The answer is (shockingly) WR. That’s the weakest position group on the team and there are viable options, potentially, on the market. They still need a boundary WR that wins consistently at the top of their depth chart. They can plug that hole, even if temporarily, with Adams or Cooper. If they just add a guy, like Dionte Johnson for example, it still vastly improves the WR room. I think Kicker is the position that “scares me” the most. I’ve been a supporter of Bass from day 1. He’s just lost his confidence or something. It just seems too difficult to upgrade kicker in season. Who gets rid of good kickers? They can maybe try to get McManus but otherwise that’s a position to target in the draft. I think safety is the weakest position group, but less impactful than receiver. And I'm less keen on Johnson. He is just an admission that Samuel hasn't worked for me and I have never actually rated him that highly. I'd rather stand pat than give up assets for him. It's got to be a proper outside boundary receiver for me to be interested. Not an inside / outside flex guy with dubious hands. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1 Posted October 1 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think safety is the weakest position group, but less impactful than receiver. And I'm less keen on Johnson. He is just an admission that Samuel hasn't worked for me and I have never actually rated him that highly. I'd rather stand pat than give up assets for him. It's got to be a proper outside boundary receiver for me to be interested. Not an inside / outside flex guy with dubious hands. Fair on safety. I actually agree but it is less impactful so I’m a little dismissive of that. I’d like to see Bishop and Edwards before needing change. For me, Johnson basically would replace the Hollins snaps. He’s a guy that can get open and handle some volume. He can run the route tree. His hands are questionable but he’s an upgrade and will be cheap to acquire. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Fair on safety. I actually agree but it is less impactful so I’m a little dismissive of that. I’d like to see Bishop and Edwards before needing change. For me, Johnson basically would replace the Hollins snaps. He’s a guy that can get open and handle some volume. He can run the route tree. His hands are questionable but he’s an upgrade and will be cheap to acquire. He is an upgrade on Hollins but he plays a different role IMO. Is he a significant upgrade on Samuel? If he is that is because the Samuel signing has busted. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 1 Posted October 1 10 hours ago, frostbitmic said: You can create schemes to help your Safeties ... You can help your QB get the ball to guys, like protecting him (cough) If your Kicker is bad you can't hide it ... The way Bass is going it's a matter of when, not if he costs the team a game. Not if they're not willing to tackle. You're safeties should be an opposing unit. Have the necessary speed to defend the field, but also to send a message to receivers coming across their territory. Quote
skibum Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Kicker seems like an urgent need right now. Can't expect to win a lot of close games with a mediocre foot. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted October 1 Posted October 1 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Give me a WR who can threaten playing on the perimeter. Baltimore provided a blueprint on how to expose that weakness on our offense. If Coleman makes that catch he dropped just before the end of the 1st half the game storyline is completely different. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1 Posted October 1 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is an upgrade on Hollins but he plays a different role IMO. Is he a significant upgrade on Samuel? If he is that is because the Samuel signing has busted. He does play a different role. I’m suggesting that Hollins “role” kind of goes away. Coleman can handle some blocking and they can play 12. Let Johnson run his routes and use Samuel as a “chess piece.” Get him touches. 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Looks like DT will be the winner! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-bills-to-sign-mammoth-rookie-dt-off-falcons-practice-squad/ar-AA1rwRVp?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=7d8ef9d4ae34400a988731cefb332088&ei=28 I like it, about time to shift our philosophy on our underperforming Dline. Quote
Bockeye Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I was the first one to vote for DT. I see three of my dearest friends have joined me in that vote. We are gong to take our victory lap now that the Bills have run with our suggestion. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Right now, safety. Not sure anyone is available, but if there were one, that's where I'd go. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I'd go WR. I don't think we need to "spend big" to get a new K. And not sure we have potential trade/FA options out there at LB or DL, but those would be next. 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: Looks like DT will be the winner! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-bills-to-sign-mammoth-rookie-dt-off-falcons-practice-squad/ar-AA1rwRVp?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=7d8ef9d4ae34400a988731cefb332088&ei=28 I like it, about time to shift our philosophy on our underperforming Dline. big run stuffer, I like it. Seems like a guy who eats space that opens up lanes for others to finish. Could keep some guys off the smaller LBs perhpas? 6 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: Starting QB this is a good one. I mean, I'm disappointed at the way this team is playing and the holes it seemingly has given we have a franchise QB (IMO, best QB in NFL). But, I'm glad we don't need to find a QB. Quote
Blackbeard Posted October 1 Posted October 1 13 hours ago, ghostwriter said: Love McD, but he isn’t the guy. Who do you want them to bring in? Amazing head coaches just aren't sitting around waiting for a call. Perhaps Ron Rivera isn't busy? Quote
uticaclub Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Who do you want them to bring in? Amazing head coaches just aren't sitting around waiting for a call. Perhaps Ron Rivera isn't busy? Hopefully the Lions win the Super Bowl and we can hire Ben Johnson Quote
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