I'd love for us to trade for Amari Cooper

[BigDingus]

I'd love for this to happen, but just a few days ago people were claiming $7 million was too much money to spend (in the D-Hop thread), so what would Cooper cost us?

 

He's 2 years younger than Hopkins, but I'm sure he'd rather play with Allen than be stuck with Watson, so it's worth looking into.

[Floydboy12]

53 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So you think that they just need a guy to get down the field? Basically a replacement for MVS? From what I’ve seen he’s been open down the field. 

Maybe i’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. Cooper may do great here if acquired. He’s certainly never had a QB like Allen throwing to him for sure. What do you think the cost would be? 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Lost said:

 

Contested catcher is our weakness?   I'd say our weakness is more not having someone who can get 2+ yards of separation.  Especially vs. man coverage.   Keon has been coming along in the contested catch department.  

 

Our weakness is WRs that can make catches downfield and outside the numbers. Coleman is not ready for that sort of role right now.

[RoscoeParrish]

53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Our weakness is WRs that can make catches downfield and outside the numbers. Coleman is not ready for that sort of role right now.

The nice thing about having Cooper is if Coleman can start making more plays is that we have more players able to make plays. Rolling with Shakir and Kincaid as our only other legitimate targets is putting a lot of pressure on Coleman to start producing before his 22nd birthday. 

[BobbyC81]

11 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I absolutely agree with your post Amari Cooper would be a great addition to this offense. He also doesn't command a ton of targets to make a difference in a game which helps keep our everyone eats theme going. 

 

There's definitely going to be games where we need certain players to be just better then the opponent. Scheming and game planning can only get you so far in this league sometimes you just need guys that can win games and Cooper at this point would go along way to helping us with that. 

Look at his catches vs targets.  He’s comparable to Gabe Davis in drops.  I saw him a lot when he was with the Raiders.   He’d make a great play on a tough catch, then next time they throw to him he’s wide open on the sideline for a first down and he’d drop it.  
 

If they can get him cheap I’d go for it though.  He’d be better than everybody we had.

 

I’m thinking Curtis Samuel  may be another “we had him in Carolina” player.

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

they weren't suffering for a lack of Cooper last night...the O-line stunk up the joint.  What would Cooper change?

 

The ability to threaten outside the numbers. Baltimore told the announcers in pre-game meetings they didn't think the Bills could do that and daring them to was the gameplan. They were right.

[GunnerBill]

11 hours ago, JP51 said:

I still think this is a year of ifs... righting the ship, look I was yelling at the TV saying ridiculous things too but in the end I knew there would be struggles this year... I  just think we need to stick with the plan and not mortgage the future for 30 plus players on big contracts after jettisoning so many and taking huge dead cap hits to do so... You can get Cooper for 1mm as a rental and he doesnt move the cap needle that much ok... fine if thats what they think they need to do... I am never against improving the team ever...  but are we doing it for the short term in a re tool year? Not so sure I want to sign up for that. 

 

I wouldn't give up a 1st or a 2nd for it. But the Browns next 5 up to the deadline are Washington, Philly, Cincy, Baltimore and the Chargers. If they are 1-8 or 2-7 and in sell mode and would take a mid round pick for Cooper then I'd do it as long as the Bills look like being a playoff team at that point (which so long as Josh's healthy they should). If the Bills are a .500 type football team at that point then I'm more in the "ride this year out, keep the pick, build through the draft" territory.

[machine gun kelly]

As much as I like the trade idea, I seriously doubt the Browns would be up for it.

[Kirby Jackson]

9 hours ago, Floydboy12 said:

Maybe i’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. Cooper may do great here if acquired. He’s certainly never had a QB like Allen throwing to him for sure. What do you think the cost would be? 

I think that Cooper can be had for maybe like a 4th or 5th. The price may drop closer to the deadline. I see no reason to not pull the trigger now. He would get off the plane as the best player at their weakest position. Cooper would instantly upgrade this offense. If it’s too expensive to bring him back, let him walk and draft a WR in the 1st.
 

Between Cooper and Adams, I expect at least one of them to end up on KC. They need a top receiver with Rice and Hollywood out. 

[aristocrat]

4 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Look at his catches vs targets.  He’s comparable to Gabe Davis in drops.  I saw him a lot when he was with the Raiders.   He’d make a great play on a tough catch, then next time they throw to him he’s wide open on the sideline for a first down and he’d drop it.  
 

If they can get him cheap I’d go for it though.  He’d be better than everybody we had.

 

I’m thinking Curtis Samuel  may be another “we had him in Carolina” player.

 

Look at his time in dallas. Comparable catch rate to diggs.  65-70 percent.  Who was his qb with the raiders? Jimmy g? Cle has had crappy qbs.  Give him a qb that can put the ball in his chest and the numbers look good. This is certainly a guy that should be in the convo. 

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The ability to threaten outside the numbers. Baltimore told the announcers in pre-game meetings they didn't think the Bills could do that and daring them to was the gameplan. They were right.

 

True, but I didn't see much time for Josh to find guys outside the numbers in shotgun.  He was harassed immediately all game. Shakir can go outside the numbers.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

True, but I didn't see much time for Josh to find guys outside the numbers in shotgun.  He was harassed immediately all game. Shakir can go outside the numbers.

 

No he can't. His numbers when split wide are terrible. 

[Sweats]

If i were a WR, i would want to go to KC. That's not saying they are better than any other team in the league, but they have Mahomo and Reid, are arguably one of the best teams in football and have proven themselves a winner.

 

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

No he can't. His numbers when split wide are terrible. 

 

 

how often is he split wide?

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Apparently Coopers cap hit would be a whopping 603k, so essentially he would be free, outside of the probable higher draft pick it would take to land him. Definitely worth considering IMO. It’s becoming more obvious that our receiving corps has not “sneakily become better”

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Why trade for Cooper when we already have the barefoot prince Mack Hollins?

[nedboy7]

18 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Cooper is dropping so many balls.  His drops are so bad that its getting funny. At least it would be funny if he wasnt killing my fantasy team.

 

Check out the ball that hit him in the chest yesterday but ended up an INT. He is quitting in Cleveland.  Dude has no heart.

I don’t know about being a Bill but those are perfect traits to be a poster on TBD.  

[GunnerBill]

26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

how often is he split wide?

 

About 20% and he is less productive there when he is out there. He doesn't have the skillset for it for me. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

If i were a WR, i would want to go to KC. That's not saying they are better than any other team in the league, but they have Mahomo and Reid, are arguably one of the best teams in football and have proven themselves a winner.

 

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Reid seems to go after guys he's had relationships in the past see reacquiring Hardman last year and getting Kareem Hunt this year. I wonder if he'd bring back Toney for this season? 

[BarleyNY]

6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

As much as I like the trade idea, I seriously doubt the Browns would be up for it.

From what I’m hearing it (unsurprisingly) will depend on how their season goes. If they don’t start winning some games, it’s on the table. After this past offseason the odds that Cooper will be a Brown in 2025 are slim to none. Guessing compensation would be a third or a pick swap equivalent. The Bills second for Cooper and the Browns third would be a good option. The Browns could save face by saying they got a second while the Bills would only slide 10-15 spots (maybe less) and get a similarly ranked prospect. Plus we’d maintain the Vikings second. Cooper would be happy playing for a contender with a QB that can get him the ball and get him paid again. And the Bills would get a #1 WR for this season while only paying him vet minimum.