SCBills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Just now, Backintheday544 said: This was Walz mic drop walk off the stage with the win moment: You might want to check in on your fellow libs.. No one agrees with you that Walz came anywhere close to winning this debate. In fact, you currently have Dems on air admitting Vance was great. 1 2
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Just now, K D said: How is the mainstream media going to spin this one? Vance smoked him. I'm really curious how they will respond That the VP debate is never a game changer. It isn’t. Doesn’t change the fact that Walz is overmatched in his role. The true believers see him as “a real man of the people” and “instantly likable and relatable”. The entire election comes down to Trump. 1
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: You might want to check in on your fellow libs.. No one agrees with you that Walz came anywhere close to winning this debate. In fact, you currently have Dems on air admitting Vance was great. Let me check Polymarket. Yup, Trump lost ground during the debate in the betting market. Vance came off slick. Just because he sounded good doesn’t mean he won. He has the lowest favorability of all 4 candidates. That will probably go up a little after tonight. The good thing about the debate was we can look forward to better debates like this in a post Trump era. 1
Doc Brown Posted October 2 Posted October 2 11 minutes ago, Beach said: my wife just said- I like these two better than the Presidential options Seems to be the general consensus. I thought Harris won against Trump pretty convincingly while Vance was a little better than Walz in this one. I'm not sure if either move the needle at all though. 1
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 (edited) Well per WaPos post debate poll, Vance is still very very unfavorable https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/vice-presidential-debate-voter-poll/ Edited October 2 by Backintheday544 1 1
K D Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Just now, Doc Brown said: Seems to be the general consensus. I thought Harris won against Trump pretty convincingly while Vance was a little better than Walz in this one. I'm not sure if either move the needle at all though. I think Vance made the point that she had 3.5 years to fix things and she didn't. I think that moves the needle for undecided. Immigration and the economy are the 2 biggest issues for voters and Vance won on both of those topics. 1
ChiGoose Posted October 2 Posted October 2 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Seems to be the general consensus. I thought Harris won against Trump pretty convincingly while Vance was a little better than Walz in this one. I'm not sure if either move the needle at all though. That’s my immediate reaction as well. But I’m not an undecided voter, so I can’t say how others will react. Will be interesting to see what the focus groups and polling shows.
Doc Brown Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Just now, K D said: I think Vance made the point that she had 3.5 years to fix things and she didn't. I think that moves the needle for undecided. Immigration and the economy are the 2 biggest issues for voters and Vance won on both of those topics. She isn't president. 1
BillsFanNC Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Walz did better than expected, but expectations were low. Vance wiped the floor with him. If you think that was close you might have just a bit of green in the sky you live under.
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 1 minute ago, K D said: I think Vance made the point that she had 3.5 years to fix things and she didn't. I think that moves the needle for undecided. Immigration and the economy are the 2 biggest issues for voters and Vance won on both of those topics. Vance also pointed out how Trump couldn’t fix things because of Congress. Its weird how he thinks Harris as VP has this super power to fix things but didn’t yet Trump as President with control of the Senate and House just couldn’t fix things because of Congress. Great point JD 1
K D Posted October 2 Posted October 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: She isn't president. It's the same policies, she is surrounded by Biden's team. Biden himself said he delegated the border and other tasks to her as recently as last week Edited October 2 by K D 1 1
Big Blitz Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: That’s my immediate reaction as well. But I’m not an undecided voter, so I can’t say how others will react. Will be interesting to see what the focus groups and polling shows. 1
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