K D Posted October 2 Posted October 2 The best thing the Dems and mainstream media can do and what I expect them to do is to forget this ever happened and quickly pivot to Iran and get this L out of the news cycle. That's how I'm dealing with the Bills vs Ravens. Forget it ever happened and move on asap 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 10 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: 3:13 PM after hours of the attack and numerous advisors telling him to say something. This is not the win you think it is. for those with memory challenges… I'm more than happy to acknowledge your version of the events of that day as soon as the government steps up and comes clean about how many Federal agents, assets, and informants were in the crowd, and truthfully tells the American people what role they played in turning the protest into a violent event. We know they were involved and we know they're withholding the truth. Sadly, you and many others are happy with just knowing 1/2 the story because it suits your favorite narratives. 1 1 1
K D Posted October 2 Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Another "fact check" destroyed. The moderators really asked "what sources do you have" for if 20 million illegals in the country will result in less housing being available. The source is common sense but good on Vance to have this ready to go 2
Starr-Bills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm more than happy to acknowledge your version of the events of that day as soon as the government steps up and comes clean about how many Federal agents, assets, and informants were in the crowd, and truthfully tells the American people what role they played in turning the protest into a violent event. We know they were involved and we know they're withholding the truth. Sadly, you and many others are happy with just knowing 1/2 the story because it suits your favorite narratives. Here is a link, I’m sure you won’t read it but you can only take a horse to water can’t make it drink. 3 minutes ago, K D said: Another "fact check" destroyed. The moderators really asked "what sources do you have" for if 20 million illegals in the country will result in less housing being available. The source is common sense but good on Vance to have this ready to go Okay so trumps plan is to kick “immigrants” out of homes so “real Americans” can rent them. Kinda like the Japanese interment camps in WW II. Sounds great. 🤮 and Harris’s plan is to build more homes (encouraging economic growth) and help people afford to buy them so they can build wealth for their family, hummm which one is better, such a hard choice.
Starr-Bills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 They are more similar than previously thought, but are consumed with personal gain and go after it the same way. “I’m super smart, but I believed the media until I was installed as the VP candidate then I saw the felon’s successes”. Not sure which is worse? 1
Roundybout Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Vance did much better than I expected. He should be the front runner for the GOP nomination in 2028. He’s DeSantis if DeSantis had an ounce of charisma and public speaking ability. 2
K D Posted October 2 Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Here is a link, I’m sure you won’t read it but you can only take a horse to water can’t make it drink. Okay so trumps plan is to kick “immigrants” out of homes so “real Americans” can rent them. Kinda like the Japanese interment camps in WW II. Sounds great. 🤮 and Harris’s plan is to build more homes (encouraging economic growth) and help people afford to buy them so they can build wealth for their family, hummm which one is better, such a hard choice. You picked the wrong topic to debate me on when I actually own a construction company lol. 1. It would take MANY YEARS to build enough new housing to even make a meaningful dent 2. Please tell me which construction company is building low income houses? We build the best of the best which is not going to be affordable to most people 3. New housing is expensive because materials are expensive because gas is expensive, something Kamala will not help with 4. Rates are crap because inflation is high so nobody can afford a loan on a new house even if they need one. My brother and his wife had their 2nd baby and both make 6 figures and they can't afford to move to a house with more beds and baths because their mortgage rate would double 5. The best thing you can immediately do for lower income housing is kick out the illegals and then you have less demand and prices will stabilize. Trump's plan wins 3 2
OrangeBills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 9 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: I thought JD also came off looking really weak after this. I think it under cut most of what he was saying the rest of the night. 4 million views already: Just laughable. No country will survive for long with people holding thoughts like this for very long. Scary.
Tiberius Posted October 2 Posted October 2 They sounded like an old married couple arguing. Two mid-westerners having a mild, good natured debate. It was like watching Fargo Put me to sleep 1 1
Doc Posted October 2 Posted October 2 53 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm more than happy to acknowledge your version of the events of that day as soon as the government steps up and comes clean about how many Federal agents, assets, and informants were in the crowd, and truthfully tells the American people what role they played in turning the protest into a violent event. We know they were involved and we know they're withholding the truth. Sadly, you and many others are happy with just knowing 1/2 the story because it suits your favorite narratives. I will acknowledge their version of the events when anyone proves that Trump told people to break into the Capitol. Because without that critical event happening, this was just a “mostly peaceful protest.” But the reality is he said to “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” I wish that Vance had emphasized that point when it was brought up. 1
SydneyBillsFan Posted October 2 Posted October 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: 64-36?? How on God's green earth did 36% of any group think that Walz even laid a glove - much less beat - Vance in that debate? Vance was like peak Josh Allen on a game-winning drive. He was surgical. And not only against Walz, but also with his lobotomy on those two brain-dead CBS bimbos. This was the debate equivalent of laying a fifty-burger on the opposing team. The only thing I can deduce from that poll is that 36% of those people are mentally handicapped / heavily ######ed. Edited October 2 by SydneyBillsFan Walz 1
Doc Posted October 2 Posted October 2 And besides coming off as more polished, prepared, and dare I say presidential, Vance hammered home that electing those two will just continue the same problems that have been occurring and that Harris waiting to do something when she could be doing it now is unacceptable. The excuse said “she’s not president” doesn’t wash when the current president is mentally disabled and basically has been replaced.
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 23 minutes ago, OrangeBills said: Just laughable. No country will survive for long with people holding thoughts like this for very long. Scary. 10.3 million views. and you’re right. Our country can’t survive if politicians think they can’t be fact checked on TV. It’s a scary thought that they think they can just lie like that. Scary.
BillsFanNC Posted October 2 Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: 64-36?? How on God's green earth did 36% of any group think that Walz even laid a glove - much less beat - Vance in that debate? Vance was like peak Josh Allen on a game-winning drive. He was surgical. And not only against Vance, but also with his lobotomy on those two brain-dead CBS bimbos. This was the debate equivalent of laying a fifty-burger on the opposing team. The only thing I can deduce from that poll is that 36% of those people are mentally handicapped / heavily ######ed. I'd say that's as good as it gets with so many Americans living under a green sky. 2
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 The best description of Vance I heard was a guy who looks like he can’t figure out if he popped or farted. Now I can’t unsee it. 1 3
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Just now, Doc said: And besides coming off as more polished, prepared, and dare I say presidential, Vance hammered home that electing those two will just continue the same problems that have been occurring and that Harris waiting to do something when she could be doing it now is unacceptable. The excuse said “she’s not president” doesn’t wash when the current president is mentally disabled and basically has been replaced. Their campaign strategy is in a word unique. They keep hammering away at Trump's record but he's not the President. They skip over and ignore the fact that Biden has been President for 3 1/2 years, the shelf life of blaming the last guy has expired, and the Biden/Harris administration owns whatever problems exist now. Basically, they're attempting to run against the record of their own administration by saying we can do so much better. But if they win, it will be more of the policies and agenda of Biden's term. 1
Backintheday544 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 https://www.newsweek.com/tim-walz-jd-vance-debate-polling-boost-1962380 According to the poll, the Minnesota governor saw a 23-point boost in his favorability ratings, going up from +14 to +37. Meanwhile, Vance saw a 19-point boost in his favorability ratings, going up from -22 to -3. Way to go Walz!!! 2
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