So far WR group looks like a dumpster fire

[Cubanmist]

59 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Shakir is great, crapping on him because he got dinged a bit and the Ravens sat on(took away the RAC) him all night is a bit much, and Coleman got going as the game went on.

Ravens capitalized by game planning well against the offense as the Bills have no serious threats…None!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

That's fair.

Then you would probably agree the Bills #1 scoring offense was a mirage as well given it was only 3 games? 

It could be yea…its way too early to look at season team stats 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Yeah they focused so much on the fumble and if Josh was hurt on the replay I had to rely more on what the announcers were saying who mentioned it was Coleman coming open.  So yeah, will be interesting to see what that crap show play was looking like downfield on the All 22.

 

I had the sound down and didn't hear anything, but there was one replay from behind the offense where you could "sort of" see Coleman and it looked like the two DBs he was splitting were both possibly flat-footed.

It was difficult to get any depth on the view from that angle though.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

I had the sound down and didn't hear anything, but there was one replay from behind the offense where you could "sort of" see Coleman and it looked like the two DBs he was splitting were both possibly flat-footed.

It was difficult to get any depth on the view from that angle though.

Impossible to tell from what we saw on TV. Yes it was Coleman downfield but he had two guys near him. Maybe he was about to blow past them. 

[78thealltimegreat]

Look Mac Hollins, Curtis Samuel, and MVS are dead weight things most of this board knew in the off season. 
Not really getting mad but Brandon Beane knew what he was getting into with these signings. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

And the Raiders were their other game…

The raiders didn’t crack 270 total yards as a team in that game lol y’all are makin it sound like they walked up and down the field.  The ravens defense is good all around 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[LABILLBACKER]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Look Mac Hollins, Curtis Samuel, and MVS are dead weight things most of this board knew in the off season. 
Not really getting mad but Brandon Beane knew what he was getting into with these signings. 

And you can add Knox as nothing but an expensive glorified blocker. We have a total of 3 semi-reliable receivers. Kincaid, Shakir & Coleman, that's it. So we may want everyone to eat but after 4 games there's really only 3 plates at the table.  Joe has more work ahead of him.

[MPT]

This was a coaching loss (big surprise). This WR group is the best at catching the ball and the best at gaining yards after the catch than we've ever had. Not even a debate.

[Dr.Sack]

Relax. At least Allen didn’t take out any WRs ACL. 

[Bermuda Triangle]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The raiders didn’t crack 270 total yards as a team in that game lol y’all are makin it sound like they walked up and down the field.  The ravens defense is good all around 

 

Each of the Ravens first 3 opponents had their best passing output (through Week 4) against the Ravens.

[78thealltimegreat]

7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And you can add Knox as nothing but an expensive glorified blocker. We have a total of 3 semi-reliable receivers. Kincaid, Shakir & Coleman, that's it. So we may want everyone to eat but after 4 games there's really only 3 plates at the table.  Joe has more work ahead of him.

That’s the thing LA his system relies on the backs being heavily involved in the passing game and that has happened but the problem is without any legit down the field threats safeties can just crowd the line and take away those outs to the backs.

We just don’t have the personnel to challenge teams deep something we all knew was a major problem and Beane thinking he was smart by half never addressed cause that is not Keons game. 

Edited 4 hours ago by 78thealltimegreat

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

That’s the thing LA his system relies on the backs being heavily involved in the passing game and that has happened but the problem is without any legit down the field threats safeties can just crowd the line and take away those outs the backs.

We just don’t have the personnel to challenge teams deep something we all knew was a major problem and Beane thinking he was smart by half never addressed cause that is not Keons game. 

Shakir is a deep threat and it's also MVS' specialty.

[78thealltimegreat]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Shakir is a deep threat and it's also MVS' specialty.

No he isn’t he broke free after Allen made a play only he makes other then that Shakir is an underneath receiver. Oh and MVS did he actually play tonight? 

[Billw8359]

At least it is burning slowly

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

No he isn’t he broke free after Allen made a play only he makes other then that Shakir is an underneath receiver. Oh and MVS did he actually play tonight? 

You don't define a WR by one play. Have you seriously never watched him play? He runs a 4.43 and has an elite level composite speed RAS, and he's ultra successful at go routes. He's not a 1 trick pony where he's just a deep threat guy, but he absolutely has that skill set.

As for MVS, him not producing tonight doesn't change my statement. He's known aroudn the league as a deep-ball specialist and has been for years.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

23 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Each of the Ravens first 3 opponents had their best passing output (through Week 4) against the Ravens.

Lol 3 weeks in is a comically small sample size.  If you believe the best scoring defense last year suddenly has the worst pass defense in the league I just don’t know what to tell you. 
 

your new worst pass defense in the league based on this small sample size system? 4-0 Minnesota which is pretty funny because they are allowing 14.8 ppg

Edited 3 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[gobills404]

36 minutes ago, MPT said:

This was a coaching loss (big surprise). This WR group is the best at catching the ball and the best at gaining yards after the catch than we've ever had. Not even a debate.

No. This is literally the least amount of yards Bills WRs have had through 4 weeks since 2018. The only reason catch% and yac have increased are because we’ve transformed into a dink and dunk offense. Josh has plummeted  from 3rd in aDOT the last 2 years all the way down to 21st. It has nothing to to do with the talent at WR being better.

[MPT]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

No. This is literally the least amount of yards Bills WRs have had through 4 weeks since 2018. The only reason catch% and yac have increased are because we’ve transformed into a dink and dunk offense. Josh has plummeted  from 3rd in aDOT the last 2 years all the way down to 21st. It has nothing to to do with the talent at WR being better.

 

They have a better catch percentage and YAC than any WR group has ever had while Allen was QB. Shakir literally had a 100% catch rate until tonight (and he's still 18/19). Like I don't even know what you're arguing here. Numbers are numbers.

[Dr.Sack]

Just rewatched the game and realized Joe Brady’s wildcat trick play might have worked if Allen was a 5’10” QB. 

[Lfod]

We lost a game. Fire everyone.