Jayden Daniels

[SCBills]

I mean... he looks like Lamar Jackson, if Lamar Jackson was a better passer.

 

Only three games, but yeesh.  If he can stay healthy, Commaders fans have to be ecstatic with the Giants having no QB and Dal/Phi tied long term to mediocre QB's.  

[starrymessenger]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

It was so beyond obvious that this kid was by FAR the best QB in that draft. It astonishes me that GMs can be so wrong when it seems so obvious. 

Figuring out whether a college QB's game will work in the pros seems to be a total crapshoot (and I agree common sense suggests that perhaps it shouldn't be). Bryce Young looks like a child trying to play a man's game but the majority of the professional talent evaluators and commentators saw him as a totally credible #1 pick overall. Jags just paid TL a quarter of a billion dollars and his game has fallen apart, he's lost his eight straight starts. He was compared to Luck coming into the league as a 100% can't miss prospect.
The worse thing you can do is put a rookie QB, no matter how talented, behind a bad O-line. I think NE is doing the right thing with Maye. In Chicago they went for extra weapons (Odunze) rather than for O line help and Williams is getting buried. They are also finding out that CW is not as pro ready as was advertised and there is real concern about potential character issues. I think some of this should have received more consideration leading up to the draft. Looks like many people, including some teammates basically don't like the guy. Has a high opinion of himself and is dismissive of others. That's not the intangibles you want and need from your QB. Unless the guy finds some humility I'd see his character as a significant risk factor. Chicago may find out they were better off with Fields.

[chris heff]

Admittedly I’ve only watched highlights, he looks good. I think the problem with anointing rookie quarterbacks is the same as rookie pitchers. Many come back to earth, some even crash, after their tendencies are learned. Mac Jones is a prime example. 

[st pete gogolak]

In one sense, I’m slightly surprised Washington selected him, only because Daniels reminded me of RG3.  It would be like the Bills drafting a WR named Zay or a DE from Penn State.  Obviously they made the right call (unless Daniels gets hurt next week).

[co_springs_billsfan]

6 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Admittedly I’ve only watched highlights, he looks good. I think the problem with anointing rookie quarterbacks is the same as rookie pitchers. Many come back to earth, some even crash, after their tendencies are learned. Mac Jones is a prime example. 

Unrelated, but since you mention Mac Jones: My boys (8 and 6) and I greatly enjoyed Monday night's 'mac and cheese' appearance, and sack/fumble 

[BuffaloBaumer]

9 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Figuring out whether a college QB's game will work in the pros seems to be a total crapshoot (and I agree common sense suggests that perhaps it shouldn't be). Bryce Young looks like a child trying to play a man's game but the majority of the professional talent evaluators and commentators saw him as a totally credible #1 pick overall. Jags just paid TL a quarter of a billion dollars and his game has fallen apart, he's lost his eight straight starts. He was compared to Luck coming into the league as a 100% can't miss prospect.
The worse thing you can do is put a rookie QB, no matter how talented, behind a bad O-line. I think NE is doing the right thing with Maye. In Chicago they went for extra weapons (Odunze) rather than for O line help and Williams is getting buried. They are also finding out that CW is not as pro ready as was advertised and there is real concern about potential character issues. I think some of this should have received more consideration leading up to the draft. Looks like many people, including some teammates basically don't like the guy. Has a high opinion of himself and is dismissive of others. That's not the intangibles you want and need from your QB. Unless the guy finds some humility I'd see his character as a significant risk factor. Chicago may find out they were better off with Fields.

I'll admit, Darnold and Lawrence were can't misses in my book. I never gave up on Darnold and still thibk he can be great. Trevor will also figure out in Jax or somewhere else.

[bigK14094]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I still think they would have taken Maye.  And yeah, Daniels looks like a stud.

 

And Maye not starting yet isn't a good sign.

AAron Rodgers sat 3 years behind Farve before starting.  Maye not starting is no sign other than Mayo being smart imho.

[gonzo1105]

I didn’t really love this class in general. I always compared Caleb Williams to Kyler Murray and Drake Maye to Sam Darnold. Wasn’t a huge of Daniels esp playing him early. Looks like I was wrong on Daniels early. Glad the NFC finally got a top QB 

[Low Positive]

13 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I didn’t really love this class in general. I always compared Caleb Williams to Kyler Murray and Drake Maye to Sam Darnold. Wasn’t a huge of Daniels esp playing him early. Looks like I was wrong on Daniels early. Glad the NFC finally got a top QB 

A tall Kyler Murray would be awesome. 

[ProcessImproverMan]

As someone who has watched a lot of LSU football, the guy has always had a pretty beautiful deep ball (on display the other night ) and always had very good escapability/running ability. He also displayed a good ability to learn from mistakes. I noticed that in the Giants game when he ran too many times early on and got popped with an early shot that shoot him. Dude stopped running as much after. His first game against the Bucs, passing was a bit off. Much better in the two weeks since.  His leadership at LSU and ability to carry the team on his back to bail out a poor defense is also commendable. No whining like a baby like Williams at USC. 

 

I think he's going to be a top 5 QB in the next couple years. 

Edited September 25 by ProcessImproverMan

[gonzo1105]

13 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

A tall Kyler Murray would be awesome. 

I have never been a fan of Kyler Murray, that’s is me insulting him but he has played well early this season to be fair 

4 minutes ago, ProcessImproverMan said:

As someone who has watched a lot of LSU football, the guy has always had a pretty beautiful deep ball (on display the other night ) and always had very good escapability/running ability. He also displayed a good ability to learn from mistakes. I noticed that in the Giants game when he ran too many times early on and got pooped with an early shot that shoot him. Dude stopped running as much after. His first game against the Bucs, passing was a bit off. Much better in the two weeks since.  His leadership at LSU and ability to carry the team on his back to bail out a poor defense is also commendable. No whining like a baby like Williams at USC. 

 

I think he's going to be a top 5 QB in the next couple years. 

He’s an example much like Allen on how his accuracy has improved so much throughout his career. Dude couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn when he was at Arizona State 

[starrymessenger]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I'll admit, Darnold and Lawrence were can't misses in my book. I never gave up on Darnold and still thibk he can be great. Trevor will also figure out in Jax or somewhere else.

Some say Trevor lacks a necessary intangible component, specifically the commanding drive to be great the way PM and Allen are driven. Good guy, not a slagger in any way, very talented but not the guy you want to bet the franchise on.

[Charles Romes]

11 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:

I'm glad the Patriots got pick #3 and not 2. Daniels looks LEGIT.

 
Yup, I literally celebrated on the level of Bills game winning TD when Washington selected him. 

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Some say Trevor lacks a necessary intangible component, specifically the commanding drive to be great the way PM and Allen are driven. Good guy, not a slagger in any way, very talented but not the guy you want to bet the franchise on.

I think that the issue is that he never faced adversity at the high school or college level. He's having to learn that at the highest level and isn't responding to it very well right now. 

[starrymessenger]

2 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I think that the issue is that he never faced adversity at the high school or college level. He's having to learn that at the highest level and isn't responding to it very well right now. 

Could be. I remember that Clemson team was ridiculous.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Wonder what bears fans are thinking….

 

1) drafted trubisky over mahomes (and others)

2) drafted fields in what is turning out to be the weakest QB draft class.

3) drafted Caleb Williams over Jayden Daniels. 

 

Oh that's bad.  And Odunze's dad tweeting lol.

6 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I think that the issue is that he never faced adversity at the high school or college level. He's having to learn that at the highest level and isn't responding to it very well right now. 

 

He never needed to throw in tight windows in HS or college.

Even the amazing playoff comeback game, I think he had 4 INT's in the first half.  

[Low Positive]

5 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Could be. I remember that Clemson team was ridiculous.

And he famously never lost a start in high school

[TBBills Fan]

8 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Bills playing 4D chess with the Pats  by letting them win that game in NE last year. 

Beane and McDermott knew what they were doing when they told the offense to not show up that day

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said:

In one sense, I’m slightly surprised Washington selected him, only because Daniels reminded me of RG3.  It would be like the Bills drafting a WR named Zay or a DE from Penn State.  Obviously they made the right call (unless Daniels gets hurt next week).

 

I've only watched highlights, but Daniels stature and play style reminds me a bit of Randell Cunningham. Who coincidentally was my all time favorite non-Bills player. Not saying Daniels is going to be as good as Cunningham, but that's who he reminds me of. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Wonder what bears fans are thinking….

 

1) drafted trubisky over mahomes (and others)

2) drafted fields in what is turning out to be the weakest QB draft class.

3) drafted Caleb Williams over Jayden Daniels.