Herc11 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: Two years later, Ric lost his title Harley Race. We are overdue. Allen is better in regular season. Mahomes is better in the playoffs. Allen is just as good in the post-season. His coach and teammates (due to injuries/etc) however have been another story. Edited 2 hours ago by Herc11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Mahomes is dropping his elbow on a bunch of throws, causing the ball to sail or otherwise hang up off-target. He might also be flying open (lead shoulder/hip) and throwing flat-footed and/or off balance. His elusiveness has been bailing him out. And for sure he's still hitting the occasional dime. But he isn't consistently very good so far in 2024. Which opens the door for one Josh Allen, who is operating at peak efficiency, to be the best QB in the NFL through the first three weeks. No more. No less. Just where it's at RIGHT NOW. TONIGHT. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Mahomes is dropping his elbow on a bunch of throws, causing the ball to sail or otherwise hang up off-target. He might also be flying open (lead shoulder/hip) and throwing flat-footed and/or off balance. Considering his penchant for throwing strikes with the craziest arms angles I've ever seen you'd think this wouldn't be a problem for him. He's looked mostly accurate to me when I've watched them. But I'm not ready to ditch my pet theory that there is something physically wrong with him and that his odd (for a ballplayer) body type could be leading to him breaking down younger than the average player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Simon said: Considering his penchant for throwing strikes with the craziest arms angles I've ever seen you'd think this wouldn't be a problem for him. He's looked mostly accurate to me when I've watched them. But I'm not ready to ditch my pet theory that there is something physically wrong with him and that his odd (for a ballplayer) body type could be leading to him breaking down younger than the average player. He certainly gets nicked up more than your average great quarterback Even on the second to the last play last night.. on a routine kneel play .. he rolled around a couple seconds to buy time so they wouldn't have to punt the ball back And he tweaked his knee.. easy to see plain as day And he's had lower body issues consistently for years.. yeah he's super mobile and elusive but he's definitely on slippery slope Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I would love to point out that Josh being involved in two blowouts has kept his stats depressed. If Bill Belichak was the coach the Bills would be averaging 40 plus and Allen putting up Lincoln Riley in the Big 12 numbers because Bill wouldn’t have just kind of aimlessly ran the ball in the 2nd half against Miami and Jax and certainly Allen would have played well into the 4th quarter - and throwing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Allen is the best player in the NFL. There were a few things I felt Mahomes was better at but Josh has closed that gap this year so far. Also Mahomes is off right now. Probably won’t stay that way but he is right now. can’t wait for this Ravens game. It should be a good one. also I feel like Mahomes has that problem where he has to feed Rice like Josh had where he fed Diggs. Worthy isn’t good, at least not yet. Kelce is old and easier to cover. I don’t think Mahomes really has anyone else meaningful. Edited 1 hour ago by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Monkeyhead Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I can't stand the new age narrative regarding which QB is better based on head-to-head and playoffs/championships. NFL football is the ultimate team sport. Ppl have lost this with the media narrative of the last 10 years or so. MVP has become a QB beauty talent show. A is better than B was never a measuring stick in the past. It was team vs team, not baseball-like pitcher wins. Josh Allen is clearly better than Pat Mahomes. Just watch the games. But Pat has SB wins, so he's better?? His team, divisional imbalance, and system is. If we use the current criteria for greatness, then Mark Rypien and Jeff Hostetler are greater than Jim Kelly. This is just silly and why are fans buying into this year after year now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted 37 minutes ago Share Posted 37 minutes ago The crazy part is Josh is the best pure passer the Bills have ever had. And there is no better pure passer in the league. He's also the best running QB the Bills have ever had. And there is no better running QB in the league. And he's as clutch as anyone we had, or anyone in the league. It's pretty insane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted just now Share Posted just now Without a Super Bowl win there is no conversation. Sure we bills mafia can make arguments but it won’t be taken seriously if you don’t win when it matters. That is what separates Mahomes….playoff succcess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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