Xavier Worthy: So far, not much more than a gadget guy

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Worthy has a message for the Bills

 

 

[zow2]

Yeah, i was wrong about Worthy.  I didn't think he would hold up...and dang, his best game of the season was against us.  So if you remove him from the KC lineup, it would have made a difference. 

 

We were undercut by them reaching up and grabbing McDuffie too, leaving us with Elam.  KC is playing chess.. and I don't know what we're playing.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

KC is playing chess.. and I don't know what we're playing.

 

Trail technique 

 

 

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Yeah, i was wrong about Worthy.  I didn't think he would hold up...and dang, his best game of the season was against us.  So if you remove him from the KC lineup, it would have made a difference. 

 

We were undercut by them reaching up and grabbing McDuffie too, leaving us with Elam.  KC is playing chess.. and I don't know what we're playing.

Hold up... 

1 season, less than 38 yards a game average as basically their starting WR in an offense where there are multiple options. Worthy got just over 10 ypr

 

Your point on McDuffie is right, worthy not yet.

 

Coleman got 42+ yards a game in a system that passes to everyone, in games he was seldom used with 29 receptions at that. @ 19.2 ypr

Edited Wednesday at 12:12 AM by boyst

[JohnNord]

 

15 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Worthy has a message for the Bills

 

 

 

 

Who gives a *****?

 

[Sojourner]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Trail technique 

 

 

We’re holding on though, right?!

[LABILLBACKER]

6 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Yeah, i was wrong about Worthy.  I didn't think he would hold up...and dang, his best game of the season was against us.  So if you remove him from the KC lineup, it would have made a difference. 

 

We were undercut by them reaching up and grabbing McDuffie too, leaving us with Elam.  KC is playing chess.. and I don't know what we're playing.

They're playing chess....we're playing squid games....

[zow2]

7 minutes ago, boyst said:

Hold up... 

1 season, less than 38 yards a game average as basically their starting WR in an offense where there are multiple options. Worthy got just over 10 ypr

 

Your point on McDuffie is right, worthy not yet.

 

Coleman got 42+ yards a game in a system that passes to everyone, in games he was seldom used with 29 receptions at that. @ 19.2 ypr

 

Sorry,  I vote with my eyeballs.  Coleman did jack sh*t in these huge games vs Denver, Balt, KC.  Worthy made us look like fools.   Next season if Keon goes off in the Divisionals and AFC Championship game, I will present him with his flowers.

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

Sorry,  I vote with my eyeballs.  Coleman did jack sh*t in these huge games vs Denver, Balt, KC.  Worthy made us look like fools.   Next season if Keon goes off in the Divisionals and AFC Championship game, I will present him with his flowers.

 

Cooper did jack s**t in most the games he was here too...thats our offense, not the player.  And people need to relax a bit on Worthy's game where that big catch wasn't even a catch, ball hit the ground, and if the refs are going to ignore that then Bishop had possession at the time they hit the ground and hits ball not Worthy's.  How it held up as a Worthy catch is as big of a mystery as how did they not give Kincaid the first when he was a half yard past the marker, followed two plays later by how the hell was that not a first down by Josh.  

[Kirby Jackson]

Worthy is a weapon. He isn’t a volume guy but he’s a playmaker and potential game breaker. He’s a big play waiting to happen. He’s never going to be a guy that has huge yardage on the season. 
 

Coleman is somewhere between project and stiff at this point. His separation is a MAJOR issue. He has good ball skills but if you’re NEVER open, how many balls can they throw you? He’s a 4th or 5th WR that will hopefully become a red zone threat. He was absolutely not worth the 33rd pick (and this isn’t hindsight). 
 

Ultimately, McConkey was the pick. He’s the guy that can find space and handle volume. There were lots of WRs in this draft so some were going to succeed and others fail. 

[The Jokeman]

12 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

Sorry,  I vote with my eyeballs.  Coleman did jack sh*t in these huge games vs Denver, Balt, KC.  Worthy made us look like fools.   Next season if Keon goes off in the Divisionals and AFC Championship game, I will present him with his flowers.

And we shut down Kelce. DHop, Brown. But I know Worthy is better then all of them. I don't buy it. Instead he's better than our worst CB, Elam.

[The Jokeman]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Worthy is a weapon. He isn’t a volume guy but he’s a playmaker and potential game breaker. He’s a big play waiting to happen. He’s never going to be a guy that has huge yardage on the season. 
 

Coleman is somewhere between project and stiff at this point. His separation is a MAJOR issue. He has good ball skills but if you’re NEVER open, how many balls can they throw you? He’s a 4th or 5th WR that will hopefully become a red zone threat. He was absolutely not worth the 33rd pick (and this isn’t hindsight). 
 

Ultimately, McConkey was the pick. He’s the guy that can find space and handle volume. There were lots of WRs in this draft so some were going to succeed and others fail. 

Worthy a playmaker he has good quickness bu with just over 10 yards per catch color me less than impressed. Coleman had 82 less receiving yards with half the receptions. 59 vs 29. 

 

Who else did Hebert have to throw to? Quinton Johnston? Joshua Palmer? Toss in McConkey had 112 targets, Coleman had 57. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:49 AM by The Jokeman

[zow2]

10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Cooper did jack s**t in most the games he was here too...thats our offense, not the player.  And people need to relax a bit on Worthy's game where that big catch wasn't even a catch, ball hit the ground, and if the refs are going to ignore that then Bishop had possession at the time they hit the ground and hits ball not Worthy's.  How it held up as a Worthy catch is as big of a mystery as how did they not give Kincaid the first when he was a half yard past the marker, followed two plays later by how the hell was that not a first down by Josh.  

 

I agree, that Cooper may have well been akin to lighting a 3rd round pick on fire.  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Who else did Hebert have to throw to? Quinton Johnston? Joshua Palmer? Toss in McConkey had 112 targets, Coleman had 57. 

Lol, if a guy is open enough to have 112 targets, 82 catches and 1,149 yards, that’s success. I don’t care who the other options were. Coleman caught 29 of those 57 targets! 51% of your targets is not acceptable. That happens when you’re not open. I’m not going to hammer on it all offseason but WR was a MASSIVE need and they drafted a guy that isn’t good.

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Worthy is a weapon. He isn’t a volume guy but he’s a playmaker and potential game breaker. He’s a big play waiting to happen. He’s never going to be a guy that has huge yardage on the season. 
 

Coleman is somewhere between project and stiff at this point. His separation is a MAJOR issue. He has good ball skills but if you’re NEVER open, how many balls can they throw you? He’s a 4th or 5th WR that will hopefully become a red zone threat. He was absolutely not worth the 33rd pick (and this isn’t hindsight). 
 

Ultimately, McConkey was the pick. He’s the guy that can find space and handle volume. There were lots of WRs in this draft so some were going to succeed and others fail. 

This. Mcconky was good. 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, if a guy is open enough to have 112 targets, 82 catches and 1,149 yards, that’s success. I don’t care who the other options were. Coleman caught 29 of those 57 targets! 51% of your targets is not acceptable. That happens when you’re not open. I’m not going to hammer on it all offseason but WR was a MASSIVE need and they drafted a guy that isn’t good.

Coleman yards per reception was better  than any rookies drafted between 2021-2024 but yeah he stinks. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Once the Eagles win, I have a message for Xavier Worthy.

[JohnNord]

20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Worthy is a weapon. He isn’t a volume guy but he’s a playmaker and potential game breaker. He’s a big play waiting to happen. He’s never going to be a guy that has huge yardage on the season. 
 

Coleman is somewhere between project and stiff at this point. His separation is a MAJOR issue. He has good ball skills but if you’re NEVER open, how many balls can they throw you? He’s a 4th or 5th WR that will hopefully become a red zone threat. He was absolutely not worth the 33rd pick (and this isn’t hindsight). 
 

Ultimately, McConkey was the pick. He’s the guy that can find space and handle volume. There were lots of WRs in this draft so some were going to succeed and others fail. 

Yeah I’m not upset they didn’t pick Worthy but it’s pretty clear that McConkey should have been the pick.   I didn’t follow Coleman closely enough to know how’d he do in the NFL.  But so far he’s as advertised and I’d agree he’ll probably never be starting caliber.

 

How about moving him into the slot?

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Coleman yards per reception was better  than any rookies drafted between 2021-2024 but yeah he stinks. 

Cool, he’s trash. He’s never open. He caught 1/2 of the balls thrown his way because he’s never open. 

Worthy is a threat to take it to the house on every play, rushes & receptions. I’m not saying that he was the perfect guy for the Bills but he’s way better than Coleman. The Bills had a massive need at WR and missed. 

Just now, JohnNord said:

Yeah I’m not upset they didn’t pick Worthy but it’s pretty clear that McConkey should have been the pick.   I didn’t follow Coleman closely enough to know how’d he do in the NFL.  But so far he’s as advertised and I’d agree he’ll probably never be starting caliber.

 

How about moving him into the slot?

That’s the only option and Shakir is best there. It was just a mistake. That’s not hindsight. 

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Cool, he’s trash. He’s never open. He caught 1/2 of the balls thrown his way because he’s never open. 

Worthy is a threat to take it to the house on every play, rushes & receptions. I’m not saying that he was the perfect guy for the Bills but he’s way better than Coleman. The Bills had a massive need at WR and missed. 

That’s the only option and Shakir is best there. It was just a mistake. That’s not hindsight. 

They also just signed Samuel at the time too.  That’s my problem with how the WR room was constructed.  Too many duplicate skillsets