Xavier Worthy: So far, not much more than a gadget guy

[Alphadawg7]

15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

They were getting a boundary WR one way or another.   Apparently everyone knew it except you.   Beane admitted he was in on Adams but the Jets paid the price AND ate the money.   No doubt if Cooper wasn't going to be traded then Hopkins is a Bill before KC loses Rice and has to pay as much as they did.   That 5 that becomes a 4 from KC would have been a 3 that becomes a 2 from Buffalo.......or a 2 for Hopkins and a day 3 pick.   You don't put your MVP level young QB's health and career in conflict over a day 2 pick.  

 

Also how did you like that go ball they threw to Shakir against KC?   Total waste of a down.  He kinda' looks like a 5'7" RB running a go route once he gets that far downfield, doesn't he?  He's excellent at what he does but that ain't it.    This is why not getting help on the boundary was not an option despite the likelihood all along that Shakir would put up 900 or so yards.

 

Again, I said it wasn't about draft compensation but you keep bringing up draft compensation.  Really no reason to keep discussing a what if scenario that didn't happen in the first place.  

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

They were getting a boundary WR one way or another.   Apparently everyone knew it except you.   Beane admitted he was in on Adams but the Jets paid the price AND ate the money.   No doubt if Cooper wasn't going to be traded then Hopkins is a Bill before KC loses Rice and has to pay as much as they did.   That 5 that becomes a 4 from KC would have been a 3 that becomes a 2 from Buffalo.......or a 2 for Hopkins and a day 3 pick.   You don't put your MVP level young QB's health and career in conflict over a day 2 pick.  

 

Also how did you like that go ball they threw to Shakir against KC?   Total waste of a down.  He kinda' looks like a 5'7" RB running a go route once he gets that far downfield, doesn't he?  He's excellent at what he does but that ain't it.    This is why not getting help on the boundary was not an option despite the likelihood all along that Shakir would put up 900 or so yards.

 

It is like the year John Brown was the de-facto #1 and had 1,000 yards and people were arguing he is therefore a true #1. It's not about yards put up. It's about what they can do and what they can't. Shakir isn't a #1. He is a slot guy. John Brown was a boundary guy but also wasn't a #1. 

[HappyDays]

25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Also how did you like that go ball they threw to Shakir against KC?   Total waste of a down.  He kinda' looks like a 5'7" RB running a go route once he gets that far downfield, doesn't he?  He's excellent at what he does but that ain't it.    This is why not getting help on the boundary was not an option despite the likelihood all along that Shakir would put up 900 or so yards.

 

Any time Allen is waiting for Shakir to get open downfield, bad things happen. The final series of the divisional round. The 1st INT thrown against Indy. The wasted down this past game that you mentioned. They need to stop trying to make it happen.

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Again, I said it wasn't about draft compensation but you keep bringing up draft compensation.  Really no reason to keep discussing a what if scenario that didn't happen in the first place.  

 

 

There was no reason for you to frame the Cooper trade as Beane just seizing an opportunity instead of being in desperate search for a boundary WR either.   But you did it.  

 

Better draft compensation gets teams to eat cap space.

 

If the Jets didn't pony up for Adams the Raiders would have had to be open to eating money.  That's why Beane was in on Adams in the first place.  Because if the Raiders didn't trade him they had to pay him anyway.   He had been pulled from the lineup and HAD to be moved.  Even simply releasing him wasn't a money saving option.  The Jets were just MORE desperate than the Bills or anyone else.   And that's probably a factor in why they fired their GM today.   

[BADOLBILZ]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Any time Allen is waiting for Shakir to get open downfield, bad things happen. The final series of the divisional round. The 1st INT thrown against Indy. The wasted down this past game that you mentioned. They need to stop trying to make it happen.

 

The guy averages 46 yac yards per game in a 2 high safety league.   He'd have to be proven incredible downfield to justify dying on the hill they did in that divisional round.   Flip he and Diggs routes on that play and take the easy button and McD probably ends up looking like Bill Parcells 2.0 at the end of the day for that gameplan.