Xavier Worthy: So far, not much more than a gadget guy

[mannc]

23 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not “sure” about it either…. That’s just  the reason I didn’t want the Bills to draft him and what I think will happen in time.  

Well, you did say it is “inevitable”…😁

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

It’s also crazy how not dragging his toe completely changes the narrative of the game he played. If he stays in bounds, he has 100 yards receiving for the game, lots of questions today about why didn’t the Bills draft him, blah blah blah. He doesn’t though, doesn’t get another pass thrown to him the rest of the game, and people can say he was shut down by the defense 

Just because you have straight line speed doesn't always translate to a WR1 who can run the route tree.  I think our gameplan was to neutralize Kelce & Dhop and we did that.

[BRH]

Their very first offensive play of the game was a gadget play to Worthy with a ton of misdirection.  The first play of the game!  When I saw that, I thought to myself, "they're not out here to impose their will; they don't think they can beat us straight up."  And the second play:  pressure and a pick.  Later in the *first half* they threw a first-down pass to an eligible tackle.  That's the kind of thing you do when you want to score points or when you want to be a dick, not to just pick up a few yards in the middle of the field.  

 

As much as I want to buy the narrative of Reid trolling us, I think that was more a byproduct of their game plan than a conscious effort to troll.  They knew we were going to focus on taking Kelce and DHop out of the offense, and Worthy was simply the best other option they had.  It worked for a little while, and then it didn't, and they were done.

[DallasMac]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

I'm not so sure about that.  Worthy had a ton of touches at Texas, including punt returns, and I don't think he was ever hurt.  He's definitely no Glass Goodwin.

He did have some injury issues at Texas.  He had a hand issue one year and an ankle the next. The hand caused quite a few drops during the season.  Still a player I wanted though.

1 hour ago, mannc said:

I'm not so sure about that.  Worthy had a ton of touches at Texas, including punt returns, and I don't think he was ever hurt.  He's definitely no Glass Goodwin.

He did have some injury issues at Texas.  He had a hand issue one year and an ankle the next. The hand caused quite a few drops during the season.  Still a player I wanted though.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

24 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

He was sat by KC Head Coach as punishment.

I think he still got around 60% of the snaps and led the wrs in snap count percentage so that cannot possibly be the case lol the wrs were pretty ineffective across the board so the chiefs tried a lot of different things 

 

Worthy is on the field a good amount and really isn’t contributing much 

 

Edited November 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, mannc said:

Well, you did say it is “inevitable”…😁

“Getting broken is what I inevitably see happening” is what I said.  If you don’t see that as different than “being so sure” I don’t know what to tell you.  

[mannc]

Just now, NewEra said:

“Getting broken is what I inevitably see happening” is what I said.  If you don’t see that as different than “being so sure” I don’t know what to tell you.  

No, I don’t see the difference.

[Saxum]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think he still got around 60% of the snaps and led the wrs in snap count percentage so that cannot possibly be the case lol the wrs were pretty ineffective across the board so the chiefs tried a lot of different things 

 

This was stated by KC coach after game in press conference.  I posted it in another thread.

 

[Sweats]

It certainly looked like Reid was giving a giant big ole **** you to the Bills by showcasing Worthy early and often.

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

The Worthy pick wasn’t stupid. The Spiller pick was monumentally stupid.  Lynch and Freddie Jackson were on the roster and you still take a RB in the top 10. Just stupid.

Hey..Chan wanted a Waterbug RB...whatever that means!!!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

This was stated by KC coach after game in press conference.  I posted it in another thread.

 

Reid said he benched worthy? Haha I have to see this because he certainly didn’t bench him for any meaningful amount of time and a rewatch of the game/ snap count sheet is immediate proof 

it was just as much a bad throw by mahomes as it was a bad play by worthy…he really shouldn’t have been forced into dragging his feet on an absolutely wide open completion to begin with which im sure Reid knows 

Edited November 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

No, I don’t see the difference.

I didn’t say “i’m sure he will inevitably get hurt”.  That’s being “so sure”, which is the crux of your debate here.  
 

Using my pretend crystal ball, I think he’s going to get broken.  I’m not “so sure” of it.  It’s just my prediction.  I thought the Bills would win yesterday- I predicted 42-10.  I wasn’t “so sure” that we’d win by more than a score, but that was my prediction.  
 

Pick one word “inevitable” and semantisize it.  Yes I made that word up but that’s what is happening here

 

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

This was too important a game for Reid to worry about trolling anyone.   

I’m with you. It’s not trolling. It’s more of a set up for a potential rematch. They hardly rush even though Hunt was having success. Watch for full doses of Hunt/Pacheco if they meet again in the playoffs. 

[Sweats]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

The Worthy pick wasn’t stupid. The Spiller pick was monumentally stupid.  Lynch and Freddie Jackson were on the roster and you still take a RB in the top 10. Just stupid.

 

 

 

I was one of the ones that was actually happy about the Spiller pick. It was definitely a luxury pick and one that we couldn't afford to waste, however, i don't blame Nix for wanting to try to "jump start" the team with drafting Spiller.

 

He was a gadget guy and a one trick pony that we didn't need, however, the team was struggling for a lot of years up to that point, so the FO made the move.......i don't fault them for it.

They knew they would eventually get rid of Lynch, so they numbers made sense, and they were hoping Spiller would be more of a Reggie Bush type, but that didn't happen. 

 

It was one big ole swing and a miss, but the FO was open to trying anything at that point.

[The Jokeman]

30 minutes ago, BRH said:

Their very first offensive play of the game was a gadget play to Worthy with a ton of misdirection.  The first play of the game!  When I saw that, I thought to myself, "they're not out here to impose their will; they don't think they can beat us straight up."  And the second play:  pressure and a pick.  Later in the *first half* they threw a first-down pass to an eligible tackle.  That's the kind of thing you do when you want to score points or when you want to be a dick, not to just pick up a few yards in the middle of the field.  

 

As much as I want to buy the narrative of Reid trolling us, I think that was more a byproduct of their game plan than a conscious effort to troll.  They knew we were going to focus on taking Kelce and DHop out of the offense, and Worthy was simply the best other option they had.  It worked for a little while, and then it didn't, and they were done.

Not sure as Worthy had 4 targets  on the TD drive and then just the out of bounds play the rest of the game. Not sure if that was Reid/Mahomes/Bills defensive backfield but he disappeared after one great drive. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Had he kept his toe inbounds on that play, who knows how the rest of the game would've played out.

 

That's fair but him getting open on that play really wasn't because of him. It was a coverage bust where we left that side of the field completely wide open. And ultimately Worthy just screwed it up all on his own.

 

So far he is basically a plus version of Mecole Hardman in that offense. He doesn't look like a total bust but he also doesn't look like someone that will ever live up to the draft capital they spent on him.

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

The Worthy pick wasn’t stupid. The Spiller pick was monumentally stupid.  Lynch and Freddie Jackson were on the roster and you still take a RB in the top 10. Just stupid.

They picked Spiller so they could get rid of Lynch, but in the process they devalued Lynch's trade value.  The Buddy Nix GM era set this team back for years with one stupid move after another. 

[DaVinci]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

It certainly looked like Reid was giving a giant big ole **** you to the Bills by showcasing Worthy early and often.

What a shame it came back and bit him in the @ss

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Reid said he benched worthy? Haha I have to see this because he certainly didn’t bench him for any meaningful amount of time and a rewatch of the game/ snap count sheet is immediate proof 

it was just as much a bad throw by mahomes as it was a bad play by worthy…he really shouldn’t have been forced into dragging his feet on an absolutely wide open completion to begin with which im sure Reid knows 

 

Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes Discuss Xavier Worthy's Latest Sideline Miscue in Loss to Bills

Xavier Worthy was a star early in the Chiefs' loss to the Bills, but he didn't see the ball again after another sideline miscue.

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/game-day/andy-reid-patrick-mahomes-discuss-xavier-worthy-latest-sideline-miscue-in-loss-to-bills

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Both sides of the ball struggled for the Kansas City Chiefs in the team's 30-21 loss to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. In KC's first defeat of the 2024 NFL season, the early story of the game was rookie wide receiver Xavier Worthy. Worthy caught four passes for 61 yards and a touchdown on the Chiefs' third drive of the game, setting up a potential breakout performance for the young speedster. Then, he didn't catch another pass.

 

Worthy was targeted only one time after that drive on Sunday, and his missed connection earned more postgame discussion than his high-octane drive.

 

[Success]

It's hard for me to believe that they weren't trolling us a bit early in the game. I've watched KC games and that was kind of a first in terms of how involved he was.  Maybe it was just that they want to work him in more, but that's pretty coincidental. 

 

It successfully trolled at least me if that's what they were doing, because I was annoyed.

 

But the whole day just confirmed my overall feeling that I wouldn't change what happened w/ the draft. I'm glad we have Coleman.