JaCrispy Posted September 22 Posted September 22 (edited) The confusion seems to stem from different racial “cultures” producing different economic outcomes..👍 The Left will call this “systemic racism”, yet there is is no law on the boooks, specifically targeting black people, that they can point to… Simply put, some cultures teach a strong work ethic, study habits, and avoiding criminality more than other cultures…And often times, people from other countries come here worse off than blacks already here… Like the great Morgan Freeman once said, always crying “racism” is just an excuse why not to try…It’s much easier blaming others, and demanding they give you things instead of working for it…👍 Edited September 22 by JaCrispy 1 1 1
Tiberius Posted September 22 Posted September 22 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: The confusion seems to stem from different racial “cultures” producing different economic outcomes..👍 The Left will call this “systemic racism”, yet there is is no law on the boooks, specifically targeting black people, that they can point to… Simply put, some cultures teach a strong work ethic, study habits, and avoiding criminality more than other cultures…And often times, people from other countries come here worse off than blacks already here… Like the great Morgan Freeman once said, always crying “racism” is just an excuse why not to try…It’s much easier blaming others, and demanding they give you things instead of working for it…👍 You don't needs laws on the book. If racist cops, prosecutors and judges are the ones enforcing "justice," then you get institutional racism 1
JaCrispy Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You don't needs laws on the book. If racist cops, prosecutors and judges are the ones enforcing "justice," then you get institutional racism I don’t see that as “institutional” racism… I see that as individual racism…And once those racist judges or prosecutors retire, there is the opportunity for non racist individuals to fill those vacancies…That does not equate to institutional racism… IMO, if it were institutional, the racism would be “baked in” and it wouldn’t matter if the racist judge retired or not, because each judge that followed would be “required” to be racist, which they are not… It seems you might be confusing racist individuals in positions of power, with “systemec/institutional racism” that is baked in…👍 No matter what country you live in, you are never going to fully stop individuals from being racist…I Edited September 22 by JaCrispy 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 22 Posted September 22 (edited) Home ownership represents the majority of wealth and investment to most US families. Blacks have done much worse than whites due in part to systemic racism and laws dating back to Jim Crow https://www.brookings.edu/articles/homeownership-racial-segregation-and-policies-for-racial-wealth-equity/ Lower Black homeownership and the racial wealth gap are byproducts of systemic racism, including the legacies of slavery, Jim Crow segregation, redlining, and other anti-Black policies that targeted Black people and predominately Black neighborhoods. Residential segregation facilitates the extraction of wealth and other vital resources that fuel economic and social mobility. The loss of wealth in Black communities hastens a downward socioeconomic spiral. For instance, schools predominated by Black, Latinx, and Asian students receive $23 billion less in funding than predominately white districts.[4] This is because schools primarily rely on local property taxes rather than a broader pool of funding to equalize school resources. Edited September 22 by Joe Ferguson forever
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 22 Posted September 22 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Home ownership represents the majority of wealth and investment to most US families. Blacks have done much worse than whites due in part to systemic racism and laws dating back to Jim Crow https://www.brookings.edu/articles/homeownership-racial-segregation-and-policies-for-racial-wealth-equity/ Lower Black homeownership and the racial wealth gap are byproducts of systemic racism, including the legacies of slavery, Jim Crow segregation, redlining, and other anti-Black policies that targeted Black people and predominately Black neighborhoods. Residential segregation facilitates the extraction of wealth and other vital resources that fuel economic and social mobility. The loss of wealth in Black communities hastens a downward socioeconomic spiral. For instance, schools predominated by Black, Latinx, and Asian students receive $23 billion less in funding than predominately white districts.[4] This is because schools primarily rely on local property taxes rather than a broader pool of funding to equalize school resources. That a great analysis but the bottom line is that 60 years of liberal solutions leave us with the same exact gripes today. One possibility is beyond making intelligent sounding problem statements you guys don't know what you're doing. 1 2
JaCrispy Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Home ownership represents the majority of wealth and investment to most US families. Blacks have done much worse than whites due in part to systemic racism and laws dating back to Jim Crow https://www.brookings.edu/articles/homeownership-racial-segregation-and-policies-for-racial-wealth-equity/ I think we can agree that no one ethnic group will have the same outcome as another- just like no individual American citizen, regardless of race, will have the same economic outcome… Given that premise, disparities among different ethnic groups does not inherently point to systemic racism…Sure, racism may be a small factor…But there are numerous other factors that contribute to these statistics, much more than race (Race is just the easiest, and most physically visible thing to point to.) However, among different ethnic groups, you have different cultures, and different things that these groups value… Furthermore, not everyone desires the same outcome as other individuals…Some people enjoy spending money on traveling…Some enjoy spending money on fashion…Others enjoy investing in the stock market…Some cultures encourage intense study and work habits, while others may not…Certain cultures encourage stronger family values than others…All of these things will lead to different outcomes of wealth, over time…👍 Edited September 22 by JaCrispy 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 22 Posted September 22 17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That a great analysis but the bottom line is that 60 years of liberal solutions leave us with the same exact gripes today. One possibility is beyond making intelligent sounding problem statements you guys don't know what you're doing. Things have improved considerably since 1964 https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/civil-rights-movement 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I think we can agree that no one ethnic group will have the same outcome as another- just like no individual American citizen, regardless of race, will have the same economic outcome… Given that premise, disparities among different ethnic groups does not inherently point to systemic racism…Sure, racism may be a small factor…But there are numerous other factors that contribute to these statistics, much more than race (Race is just the easiest, and most physically visible thing to point to.) However, among different ethnic groups, you have different cultures, and different things that these groups value… Furthermore, not everyone desires the same outcome as other individuals…Some people enjoy spending money on traveling…Some enjoy spending money on fashion…Others enjoy investing in the stock market…Some cultures encourage intense study and work habits, while others may not…Certain cultures encourage stronger family values than others…All of these things will lead to different outcomes of wealth, over time…👍 I'm thinking you see the others as black... 9 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Some cultures encourage intense study and work habits given th demographics, I'm certain your not talking about the average MAGA.
B-Man Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm thinking you see the others as black... and there it is. "feels" not 'thinking.
OrangeBills Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You don't needs laws on the book. If racist cops, prosecutors and judges are the ones enforcing "justice," then you get institutional racism Cough, Biden's Senate floor speech in 87 or whatver, cough 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: and there it is. "feels" not 'thinking. Perhaps crispy critter can confirm or deny
B-Man Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Perhaps crispy critter can confirm or deny Perhaps you assumed. but keep digging. .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Perhaps you assumed. but keep digging. . I was unambiguous about MAGAs in this context. Data…
B-Man Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I was unambiguous about MAGAs in this context. Data… 9 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Perhaps crispy critter can confirm or deny Nothing ambiguous about that reply little Joe. You really can't face things can you ? .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Nothing ambiguous about that reply little Joe. You really can't face things can you ? . Pretty clear. If he wants to deny it, he proves me wrong. I’m still scratching my head on the KJV. Church of England is Catholic light and much more liberal…
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 23 Posted September 23 So....I accurately stated crispy's intended meaning. cool. best to let this die now.
JaCrispy Posted September 23 Author Posted September 23 I see I’m a hot topic today… Sorry I couldnt respond sooner, but I had a 14 hour work day, and now I’m watching the game… I will respond later tonight…But for now, it’s Bills time! 👍 1
JaCrispy Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 On 9/22/2024 at 7:33 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Things have improved considerably since 1964 https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/civil-rights-movement I'm thinking you see the others as black... given th demographics, I'm certain your not talking about the average MAGA. Well, you didn’t highlight any part of my post, so I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to… Second of all, as I have stated several times on this message board, in the past, myself, along with a majority of my family are black, so I’m not sure why I would refer to black people as “others”… However, just because I am black, it does not prevent me from criticizing certain segments of black culture that I feel impede progress… But I think I was pretty clear in my post, that I referencing several different ethnicities and cultures… Your response was somewhat vague…So if I’m missing something, please feel free to elaborate…👍 1
B-Man Posted September 24 Posted September 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Well, you didn’t highlight any part of my post, so I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to… Joe is assuming again. He KNOWS what the "average MAGA" is like, don't you know. . . Edited September 24 by B-Man
JaCrispy Posted September 24 Author Posted September 24 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Joe is assuming again. He KNOWS what the "average MAGA" is like, don't you know. . . That’s funny because I consider myself the average MAGA …😉
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 24 Posted September 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Joe is assuming again. He KNOWS what the "average MAGA" is like, don't you know. . . met more than my share. over 70% R in 2022 congressional race. Edited September 24 by Joe Ferguson forever
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