BananaB Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Does this surprise anyone. Brady went to a team loaded with weapons, (best place available for a qb at that time) and still got the organization to bring in his buddies as well. The offense went from Bruce Arians plays at the start of the season to Tom Brady’s after they struggled early. His way got them a Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: Nah man he's the greatest to ever do it. I have no shame in admitting it. He's better than Allen, Mahomes, or anyone else. He just never made any mistakes and always threw the ball to the right place. The GOAT in terms of pocket presence, reading the defense, and accuracy. Underrated arm strength too. And somehow he was playing the best football of his career in his mid-30s after tweaking his mechanics. If this post nets me a ban I accept my punishment. I'd put Peyton Manning right up there with him in these areas. Brady was just better in the playoffs and had a master defensive mind as his head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMaxPower Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Brady is football Tom Cruise. Great at what he does and a psycho totally focused on perfection. Also the ultimate phony 'good guy', right down to the smile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Baker Mayfield is my 2nd favorite QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 8 hours ago, Simon said: Background: When Brady replaced Bledsoe and the Bills then traded for Drew, I was absolutely livid. I was the only Bills fan here or anywhere else that I know of who felt that way, because I thought within a couple of weeks of the switch that Brady had already become the better QB and that the gap was only going to widen over time. And I was absolutely excoriated here for months because I thought that. I say this not to toot my horn but to clarify that I am not just trying to defend some inane position that I held 20 years ago. Brady is certainly one of the best to ever do it; the reason being because of his accuracy and decision-making, imo. However, I also think there have been a LOT of guys in this league that could accurately throw 8 yard darts behind good protection to open guys who knew what to do with the ball when they got their hands on it. This is not a skill that makes one a GOAT when plenty of others can do it just as well. What makes Brady that GOAT in everybody's mind is those rings all over his hands. But it is my concerted opinion that individuals don't win Super Bowls, teams do. And Tom Brady had more advantages around him than possibly any other QB in the history of this league. Consider the historically great coaching 7 days/week, outstanding OLines, a multitude of weapons perfectly fitted to scheme, some of the best prepared defenses you'll ever see, knowledge of other team's personnel/plans (often gathered through nefarious means), frequently game-winning special teams, unique officiating that mysteriously always went their way and a franchise willingness to push, bend and stretch every rule they could possibly think of. I believe there are a plethora of dinkers and dunkers that could have thrived in those conditions and won just as much as he did given those same conditions and opportunities. Hell, the one season he missed, Matt freaking Cassell registered an 11-5 record with a 2:1 TD/INT ratio; meanwhile he had like a 25-40 record with a near 1:1 ratio everywhere else he played. This just points up the kind of advantages QB's had playing for Belichick and that franchise during those years. I know you don't agree and few others see it that way and I'm not trying to change your opinion because I know I won't. I'm just trying to point out that my take is not as outlandish as many are going to try to make it. Just to add to this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 15 hours ago, GoBills808 said: The conclusion are weird and the syntax is jumpy What do you think of this syntax?: 16 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Ngl is trade some stress for a super bowl Also who/what is Ngl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Wait. So Tom Brady is human? Shows emotion? Was kinda perturbed an honestly lesser qb was his oc? To me, I’d prob react the same. I’d be annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Just to add to this: Just adds to my theory that everybody has collectively forgotten what they watched, and hasve been bombarded by the media narratives that he is the GOAT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 13 hours ago, Simon said: Well that is one of the more hurtful insinuations I've ever received here. I bet if you flip their situations that their results end up flipped as well. no chance. huge choker. stat builder, regular season wonder, playoff dud (worse than Prescott)-with Tomlinson, Gates, Vincent Jackson. Swap out those 3 for Antowain Smith, Troy Brown and Daniel Graham and the Chargers never make the playoffs once. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Probably the funniest story I have read in a while. The 44 year old who sacrificed his marriage and his entire home life for football in his pursuit to win Super Bowls constantly…. was a little intense about football. I know there’s a generational difference between kids today and older guys like Brady. But this is pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Just adds to my theory that everybody has collectively forgotten what they watched, and hasve been bombarded by the media narratives that he is the GOAT. I always thought Manning was the best QB of all time. It’s just hard to make that argument when it’s 2 Super Bowls vs 7 for Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 10 hours ago, Breakout Squad said: I always thought Manning was the best QB of all time. It’s just hard to make that argument when it’s 2 Super Bowls vs 7 for Brady. It can be done when you remember it’s a team game. Manning never had a great defense nor a brilliant head coach. Remember Caldwell? Manning didn’t get as many lucky calls as Brady. He didn’t get bailed out as much as Brady. And Manning’s teams didn’t participate in any form of cheating or gamesmanship. It’s the media narratives that are driven so deep in our heads, we learn to distrust our own eyes and memories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 9/20/2024 at 1:51 PM, Logic said: Brady being a control freak douche is not really news, at least to me. There was absolutely ZERO benefit to Mayfield saying this publicly, though. Josh Allen is so mind bogglingly elite at giving interviews. Other players -- like Mayfield in this instance -- are, um....not. What do you me "ZERO benefit to Mayfield saying this publicly." If he hadn't done so and it wasn't reported here we would have been denied an opportunity to hate on Tom Brady, something most of us love to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 9/21/2024 at 9:26 AM, Doc Brown said: I'd put Peyton Manning right up there with him in these areas. Brady was just better in the playoffs and had a master defensive mind as his head coach. Brady-P. Manning- E. Manning -Brees-Rothlisberger-Rivers-Rodgers - Great era of QB... Only Rivers did not make it to the SB. Mahomes-Allen-Herbert, Burrow-Jackson-Stroud are looking like the Torch Bearers of this era... Go Bills !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Week 3 Baker Mayfield C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG 25/33 163 4.9 1 1 7-31 83.3 You think Tom Brady is enjoying Mayfield's loss to the Broncos today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 9/20/2024 at 10:43 AM, Big Turk said: Wow...Mayfield dropping some info... Says the team was stressed out by Brady the last year especially and that if he told his OC Byron Leftwich that he didn't like a play during the week and it was called in a game that he would intentionally throw the ball at the receiver's or running back's feet to show him who was in charge/in control of things and his displeasure. Also appears it might be related to Brady not respecting him enough since he was 2 years older than Leftwich. Brady apparently isn't the squeaky clean guy the media tries to make him out to be... Wonder how much other stuff like this goes on that you don't hear about... Baker Mayfield suggests Tom Brady 'stressed out' team On the podcast, Mayfield said, "The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously, playing-wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in, high-strung environment, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out." Mayfield went on to say, "You hear some of the stories about if he didn’t like a certain play call and he didn’t like it throughout the week and they still call it in the game, there might have been a throwaway on purpose or throwing it at the running back or receiver’s feet. There were a lot of mind games going on." https://www.yahoo.com/sports/buccaneers-qb-baker-mayfield-says-152739052.html Tom Brady is a diva? NOOOOO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) On 9/20/2024 at 5:35 PM, GunnerBill said: This is completely why Tom and Bill worked. They were both relentless to the point of exhausting others around them. How many cheating scandals between them? 3? Those are just the official ones, not the rumored ones. Edited September 23 by That's No Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 9/20/2024 at 1:43 PM, Big Turk said: Wow...Mayfield dropping some info... Says the team was stressed out by Brady the last year especially and that if he told his OC Byron Leftwich that he didn't like a play during the week and it was called in a game that he would intentionally throw the ball at the receiver's or running back's feet to show him who was in charge/in control of things and his displeasure. Also appears it might be related to Brady not respecting him enough since he was 2 years older than Leftwich. Brady apparently isn't the squeaky clean guy the media tries to make him out to be... Wonder how much other stuff like this goes on that you don't hear about... Baker Mayfield suggests Tom Brady 'stressed out' team On the podcast, Mayfield said, "The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously, playing-wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in, high-strung environment, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out." Mayfield went on to say, "You hear some of the stories about if he didn’t like a certain play call and he didn’t like it throughout the week and they still call it in the game, there might have been a throwaway on purpose or throwing it at the running back or receiver’s feet. There were a lot of mind games going on." https://www.yahoo.com/sports/buccaneers-qb-baker-mayfield-says-152739052.html I can pretty much guarantee you that Brady is smarter than whoever the OC was for TB under Bowles. Nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 So now we know why he wanted those balls deflated at least ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Tbf... If I was Tom Brady, I'd also feel weird taking plays from Byron Leftwich. I'm sure someone else in these 5 pages said something similar, but imagine being as successful as Brady, then having Leftwich try coaching you. He probably didn't have that kind of respect for him, so I believe Mayfield on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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