Are the Ravens in trouble? Baltimore at Dallas a huge game for both teams this week...

[Saxum]

21 hours ago, stuvian said:

Baltimore clearly overlooked the Raiders. If their OL is weak they won't be going anywhere except 1 and done as a wildcard.

 

Teams are taking away the middle of the field from Lamar forcing him to throw to the sidelines which is not his strength.

 

For reasons, I cannot fathom the Ravens all calling fewer designed QB runs than years past.

 

I understand that from a safety perspective but Lamar's running can be the difference between a win and a loss. Their passing game is just above OK.

 

Lamar's running is close to undefendable. Their defense is not the bully unit of the Ray Lewis - Ed Reed - Terrell Suggs era either.

 

It seems unbelievable that they could go 0-5 to start the year but their schedule looks like that could happen.

 

Jackson's running IS Defensible - Leslie Frazier designed a defense just for him in playoffs which contained him and frustrated him into making mistakes.

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

Jackson's running IS Defensible - Leslie Frazier designed a defense just for him in playoffs which contained him and frustrated him into making mistakes.

 

The key is keep the conventional run game in check. That playoff game the running backs had 20 carries for 82 yards. 4.2 a clip with a long of 13 yards. That is going to mean plenty of second and third and medium to longs. When we won there in 2022 it was 21 carries for 86 yards at 4.1 a clip. If you can do that and not let the conventional run game beat you then sure, Lamar will escape on a few 3rd downs and pick them up with his legs but there will be enough obvious passing 3rd downs where he can't escape and they can't freeze the linebackers with RPO / play action and Lamar just has to read the full field and throw. And if you can make him do that 8 or 9 times a game you will beat him. 

[eball]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The key is keep the conventional run game in check. That playoff game the running backs had 20 carries for 82 yards. 4.2 a clip with a long of 13 yards. That is going to mean plenty of second and third and medium to longs. When we won there in 2022 it was 21 carries for 86 yards at 4.1 a clip. If you can do that and not let the conventional run game beat you then sure, Lamar will escape on a few 3rd downs and pick them up with his legs but there will be enough obvious passing 3rd downs where he can't escape and they can't freeze the linebackers with RPO / play action and Lamar just has to read the full field and throw. And if you can make him do that 8 or 9 times a game you will beat him. 

 

Exactly.  That's why the Ravens signed Henry...to make teams fear the conventional run game.

 

What they should have done, though, is to keep JK Dobbins and invest in that OL.  Their line absolutely stinks and will be their undoing.

 

[amprov56]

On 9/17/2024 at 11:23 AM, eball said:

Losing a last second game at KC isn't unexpected, but the Sunday implosion at home vs. the Raiders is.  Now they go to Dallas to face an embarrassed Cowboy squad looking to get back on track, then it's home vs. Buffalo followed by a trip to Cinci.

 

It is not unthinkable they they could be 0-5 in three weeks.

 

And if Dallas loses this week, that's two in a row at home in a "win or bust" season in which both CeeDee and Dak just got paid.

 

Thoughts?

 

My argument is September is the new pre season, unfortunately the games count. Real pretenders and contenders will emerge as October rolls on. Now I do enjoy watching the Ravens struggle!
 

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 9/17/2024 at 3:12 PM, Captain Hindsight said:

Gonna be tough for Lamar to win the MVP again

Shouldn’t have won the last one either. Sorry couldn’t resist 

[CSBill]

I'm just hoping both lose. But if I had a choice, the Bills would be better served if the Ravens lost.