Don Otreply Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:55 PM So far this season is it really any of these guys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted Monday at 08:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:56 PM 25 minutes ago, Capco said: By people, you mean people like @Sweats? You son of a *****!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted Monday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:59 PM 18 minutes ago, K D said: Mahomes has 3 rings and Lamar has 2 mvps and Josh has...this message board apparently Don't forget Josh has the most fantasy points and Hailee Steinfeld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted Monday at 09:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:04 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Don't forget Josh has the most fantasy points and Hailee Steinfeld. And a lot of money. All great things but still not the 2nd best QB in the NFL with "really no dispute." I think Bills fans feel that way and there are arguments for but also plenty for against. But he's certainly up there. He just needs the hardware to prove it. Even if he's 5th best and we win the Super Bowl because James Cook averages 120 yards from scrimmage then who would complain? Edited Monday at 09:06 PM by K D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted Monday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:05 PM So far this season Derek Carr, Mayfield and Kyler Murray have been staking their claim to being in the top tier of NFL QBs. How's that for a shocker. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted Monday at 09:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:08 PM 19 minutes ago, Logic said: My List. Note: There is a large tier break between Tier 1 and Tier 2. No one is close to those two. Tier 1: Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen Tier 2: Joe Burrow(s) CJ Stroud Tier 3: Lamar Jackson Justin Herbert Tier 4: Kyler Murray Jalen Hurts Jared Goff Matthew Stafford Dak Prescott Jordan Love Tier 5: Kirk Cousins Baker Mayfield Derek Carr Trevor Lawrence That's a good list. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 09:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:10 PM 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said: So far this season Derek Carr, Mayfield and Kyler Murray have been staking their claim to being in the top tier of NFL QBs. How's that for a shocker. plenty of players have had elite seasons without being elite QBs (Gannon, Schaub, Bulger, Flacco, Culpepper, Vick, etc). Each of those guys could thow for 5k yards and I wouldn't consider them elite tier QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted Monday at 09:36 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:36 PM 46 minutes ago, Logic said: My List. Note: There is a large tier break between Tier 1 and Tier 2. No one is close to those two. Tier 1: Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen Tier 2: Joe Burrow(s) CJ Stroud Tier 3: Lamar Jackson Justin Herbert Tier 4: Kyler Murray Jalen Hurts Jared Goff Matthew Stafford Dak Prescott Jordan Love Tier 5: Kirk Cousins Baker Mayfield Derek Carr Trevor Lawrence This is pretty good. I noticed you left Tua off. Is that intentional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted Monday at 09:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:56 PM I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted Monday at 10:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:05 PM 1 hour ago, Logic said: I have to ask this. I'm not trying to be mean or rude or anything, I just genuinely want to know. How are people still putting an "s" on the end of Joe Burrow? He's been in the league for five years now. I'm so confused. That’s Logics for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted Monday at 10:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:07 PM I see the survey leader is Burrow. He might be a clear #3, but until he can stay healthy, I can't pick him. And Stroud needs more than 1 year to prove to me he's good, so I went with Jackson by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted Monday at 10:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:19 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Lamar has 2 mvps That goes to show that it’s a silly award. It’s almost as bad as the Pro Bowl game, but you can’t just abolish the award. Lamar just doesn’t feel all that MVP to me. 🤷♂️ EDIT: I don’t want any of you to know where I live if he wins the Super Bowl. 😂 Edited Monday at 10:20 PM by Augie 2 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted Monday at 10:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:21 PM 2 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Lamar has 2 mvps ...and the same amount of playoff wins. Lamar will never be #3 until he plays better than 2-4 in the playoffs with a 75 qb rating. I guess Burrow & Stroud can battle it out for 3. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted Monday at 10:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:22 PM 25 minutes ago, skibum said: I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. In a hypothetical, if Baltimore had a chance to trade Jackson for Allen straight up, you think they wouldn't pull the trigger? I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted Monday at 10:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:22 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, K D said: And a lot of money. All great things but still not the 2nd best QB in the NFL with "really no dispute." I think Bills fans feel that way and there are arguments for but also plenty for against. But he's certainly up there. He just needs the hardware to prove it. Even if he's 5th best and we win the Super Bowl because James Cook averages 120 yards from scrimmage then who would complain? Or you can just watch them play the game of football and by doing so, come away with an accurate account of who’s the best at the game of football. Edited Monday at 10:23 PM by julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted Monday at 10:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:22 PM 24 minutes ago, skibum said: I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. From the national media, you're right. But for anyone who understands the game and just doesn't go by stats and awards, Josh is clearly number 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted Monday at 11:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:25 PM Tough call between Burrow and Stroud for me. Burrow's done it longer which certainly counts for something. Whereas Stroud genuinely does look a bit better when I watch him, better throwing on the run and doesn't miss as many passes to my eyes. Since I'm on the fence I default to the player that's been more durable. So it's Stroud for me. Very close though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted Monday at 11:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:28 PM 1 hour ago, skibum said: I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. Just think, the Bills had a chance to draft him, then they would have 2 MVPs and zero playoff wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted Monday at 11:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:43 PM 1 hour ago, skibum said: I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. Hate to break it to you but outside of Baltimore there’s not a team out there that would pick Lamar over Josh. The Super Bowl line is a really lazy attempt at a troll comment-if you’re gonna troll, be more creative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted Monday at 11:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:55 PM 3 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Lamar has 2 mvps The 2nd MVP was so weak I’m not giving it much weight. First one was obviously very strong and legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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