Who is the NFLs QB3?

[Don Otreply]

So far this season is it really any of these guys? 

[Sweats]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:29 PM, Capco said:

By people, you mean people like @Sweats?

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You son of a *****!!!

[GASabresIUFan]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:40 PM, K D said:

Mahomes has 3 rings and Lamar has 2 mvps and Josh has...this message board apparently 

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Don't forget Josh has the most fantasy points and Hailee Steinfeld.

[K D]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:59 PM, GASabresIUFan said:

Don't forget Josh has the most fantasy points and Hailee Steinfeld.

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And a lot of money. All great things but still not the 2nd best QB in the NFL with "really no dispute." I think Bills fans feel that way and there are arguments for but also plenty for against.

 

But he's certainly up there. He just needs the hardware to prove it. Even if he's 5th best and we win the Super Bowl because James Cook averages 120 yards from scrimmage then who would complain?

Edited September 16, 2024 by K D

[GASabresIUFan]

So far this season Derek Carr, Mayfield and Kyler Murray have been staking their claim to being in the top tier of NFL QBs.  How's that for a shocker.

[MJS]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:48 PM, Logic said:

My List.

Note: There is a large tier break between Tier 1 and Tier 2. No one is close to those two.


Tier 1:
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen

Tier 2:
Joe Burrow(s)
CJ Stroud

Tier 3:
Lamar Jackson
Justin Herbert

Tier 4:
Kyler Murray
Jalen Hurts
Jared Goff
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott

Jordan Love

 

Tier 5:
Kirk Cousins

Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Trevor Lawrence

 

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That's a good list.

[BullBuchanan]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:05 PM, GASabresIUFan said:

So far this season Derek Carr, Mayfield and Kyler Murray have been staking their claim to being in the top tier of NFL QBs.  How's that for a shocker.

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plenty of players have had elite seasons without being elite QBs (Gannon, Schaub, Bulger, Flacco, Culpepper, Vick, etc).

Each of those guys could thow for 5k yards and I wouldn't consider them elite tier QBs.

[Chaos]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:48 PM, Logic said:

My List.

Note: There is a large tier break between Tier 1 and Tier 2. No one is close to those two.


Tier 1:
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen

Tier 2:
Joe Burrow(s)
CJ Stroud

Tier 3:
Lamar Jackson
Justin Herbert

Tier 4:
Kyler Murray
Jalen Hurts
Jared Goff
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott

Jordan Love

 

Tier 5:
Kirk Cousins

Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr
Trevor Lawrence
 

 

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This is pretty good. I noticed you left Tua off. Is that intentional. 

[skibum]

I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 

[Neo]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:15 PM, Logic said:

I have to ask this.

I'm not trying to be mean or rude or anything, I just genuinely want to know.

How are people still putting an "s" on the end of Joe Burrow? He's been in the league for five years now.

I'm so confused.

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That’s Logics for you.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I see the survey leader is Burrow.  He might be a clear #3, but until he can stay healthy, I can't pick him.  And Stroud needs more than 1 year to prove to me he's good, so I went with Jackson by default.

[Augie]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:14 PM, Awwufelloff said:

Lamar has 2 mvps

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That goes to show that it’s a silly award. It’s almost as bad as the Pro Bowl game, but you can’t just abolish the award. 

 

Lamar just doesn’t feel all that MVP to me.  🤷‍♂️

 

 

EDIT: I don’t want any of you to know where I live if he wins the Super Bowl.  😂 

Edited September 16, 2024 by Augie

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:14 PM, Awwufelloff said:

Lamar has 2 mvps

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...and the same amount of playoff wins.  Lamar will never be #3 until he plays better than 2-4 in the playoffs with a 75 qb rating. I guess Burrow & Stroud can battle it out for 3.

[TBBills Fan]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:56 PM, skibum said:

I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 

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In a hypothetical, if Baltimore had a chance to trade Jackson for Allen straight up, you think they wouldn't pull the trigger?  

 

I do 

[julian]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:04 PM, K D said:

And a lot of money. All great things but still not the 2nd best QB in the NFL with "really no dispute." I think Bills fans feel that way and there are arguments for but also plenty for against.

 

But he's certainly up there. He just needs the hardware to prove it. Even if he's 5th best and we win the Super Bowl because James Cook averages 120 yards from scrimmage then who would complain?

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Or you can just watch them play the game of football and by doing so, come away with an accurate account of who’s the best at the game of football.

Edited September 16, 2024 by julian

[BillsFan130]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:56 PM, skibum said:

I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 

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From the national media, you're  right.

 

But for anyone who understands the game and just doesn't go by stats and awards, Josh is clearly number 2

[HappyDays]

Tough call between Burrow and Stroud for me. Burrow's done it longer which certainly counts for something. Whereas Stroud genuinely does look a bit better when I watch him, better throwing on the run and doesn't miss as many passes to my eyes.

 

Since I'm on the fence I default to the player that's been more durable. So it's Stroud for me. Very close though.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:56 PM, skibum said:

I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 

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Just think, the Bills had a chance to draft him, then they would have 2 MVPs and zero playoff wins.

 

[Ya Digg?]

  On 9/16/2024 at 9:56 PM, skibum said:

I hate to break it to everyone, but outside Buffalo, Lamar is QB #2. He has 2 MVP awards and just as many superbowl appearances/wins as Josh does. 

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Hate to break it to you but outside of Baltimore there’s not a team out there that would pick Lamar over Josh. The Super Bowl line is a really lazy attempt at a troll comment-if you’re gonna troll, be more creative 

[DapperCam]

  On 9/16/2024 at 8:14 PM, Awwufelloff said:

Lamar has 2 mvps

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The 2nd MVP was so weak I’m not giving it much weight. First one was obviously very strong and legit.