ganesh Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 9/20/2024 at 9:43 PM, GASabresIUFan said: A little off topic, but who are Beane's top 10 draft picks overall and top 5 value picks? 1. Allen 2. T Johnson 3. Benford 4. Teller (2 - AP, 3 - PB) 5. Cook 6. Rousseau 7. Oliver 8. Brown 9. Bernard 10. Edmunds Top 5 Value 1. T Johnson 2. Benford 3. Teller 4. Davis 5. Shakir Up and comers - Shakir, Kincaid, Cook, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Coleman, Bishop, SVPG, Torrence. If you looked at the big picture...this is a poor return from the draft class. These all have been role players...not blue chip players. 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 14 Posted October 14 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: If you looked at the big picture...this is a poor return from the draft class. These all have been role players...not blue chip players. 6 of those players are day 2 and 3 picks. That is great value. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 14 Posted October 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ganesh said: If you looked at the big picture...this is a poor return from the draft class. These all have been role players...not blue chip players. Calling only Christian benford just a role player is pretty hilarious and you made that generalization about the whole draft class 🤣 Edited October 14 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote
ganesh Posted October 14 Posted October 14 15 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Calling only Christian benford just a role player is pretty hilarious and you made that generalization about the whole draft class 🤣 The ask was "did we draft well". If you are not drafting to win the SB then you are not drafting well...In 6-7 years of draft, you need to get a certain amount of blue chip players to win SB (Look at the Chiefs the last two years...they have won with no big names in their defense but they are best at their positions)...The Bills have not accomplished that...Benford is currently a role palyer...he is not even the best player on this defense....OUr bar needs to be higher to get and win the SB. 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 14 Posted October 14 1 minute ago, ganesh said: The ask was "did we draft well". If you are not drafting to win the SB then you are not drafting well...In 6-7 years of draft, you need to get a certain amount of blue chip players to win SB (Look at the Chiefs the last two years...they have won with no big names in their defense but they are best at their positions)...The Bills have not accomplished that...Benford is currently a role palyer...he is not even the best player on this defense....OUr bar needs to be higher to get and win the SB. I don’t really think someone who thinks the chiefs have no big name players on defense should be the judge of what a blue chip player is 🤣 Quote
turbo044 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 12 minutes ago, ganesh said: The ask was "did we draft well". If you are not drafting to win the SB then you are not drafting well...In 6-7 years of draft, you need to get a certain amount of blue chip players to win SB (Look at the Chiefs the last two years...they have won with no big names in their defense but they are best at their positions)...The Bills have not accomplished that...Benford is currently a role palyer...he is not even the best player on this defense....OUr bar needs to be higher to get and win the SB. Benford - a role player? That's hilarious. Cam Lewis is a role player, a top rated CB is not a role player. #2ranked CB in the league. So good that opposing QB's really don't look his way: • Christian Benford‘s remarkable season continues: The Bills corner was targeted just once in Week 5. He allowed a 3-yard catch and made a defensive stop. He has allowed an impressive 0.15 yards per coverage snap and a passer rating of just 20.1 when targeted. Josh Allen is closer to a role player than Benford Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 14 Posted October 14 34 minutes ago, ganesh said: The ask was "did we draft well". If you are not drafting to win the SB then you are not drafting well...In 6-7 years of draft, you need to get a certain amount of blue chip players to win SB (Look at the Chiefs the last two years...they have won with no big names in their defense but they are best at their positions)...The Bills have not accomplished that...Benford is currently a role palyer...he is not even the best player on this defense....OUr bar needs to be higher to get and win the SB. Chris Jones is just a role player? Quote
ganesh Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Chris Jones is just a role player? No that is the point. The Bills have not drafted to have such game changers. We get to draft good players. Role player was probably wrongly used...my point was that our GM drafts players who are ok...but they have not been those game changers....Milano was the closest but he has been injured most of the past two years... Does this Bills team have a Ed Reed or a Troy Polamalu on the back side of its defense...Does it have a Ray Lewis or a Urlacher manning the middle of the defense.... Does this team have a wrecking ball on the front four like a Bruce Smith or a TJ Watt.... those people take over games and change the narrative...We haven't had such players in Brandon's regime. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 14 Posted October 14 7 minutes ago, ganesh said: No that is the point. The Bills have not drafted to have such game changers. We get to draft good players. Role player was probably wrongly used...my point was that our GM drafts players who are ok...but they have not been those game changers....Milano was the closest but he has been injured most of the past two years... Does this Bills team have a Ed Reed or a Troy Polamalu on the back side of its defense...Does it have a Ray Lewis or a Urlacher manning the middle of the defense.... Does this team have a wrecking ball on the front four like a Bruce Smith or a TJ Watt.... those people take over games and change the narrative...We haven't had such players in Brandon's regime. You specifically said the Chiefs don’t have any big names lol. Chris Jones has been one of the best Defensive players in the entire NFL for the last 5 years. Christian Benford right now is one of the best corners in the game. You are picking a handful of legendary players over the last 30 years to make your point. Why did you use the Chiefs as your current example and specifically saying they don’t have any game changers then?? Quote
NewEra Posted October 14 Posted October 14 11 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: That’s insane- thanks for posting Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 14 Posted October 14 12 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Role player, easily replaceable. Quote
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