GunnerBill Posted September 19 Posted September 19 2 hours ago, JP51 said: Fair but I am just not even seeing him out there... but maybe Jmarcus Ingram is very good too... I hope that is the issue. Ingram isn't playing over Elam. Elam can't play the role Ingram has played. He is strictly a boundary guy. 2 Quote
Saxum Posted September 19 Posted September 19 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Ingram isn't playing over Elam. Elam can't play the role Ingram has played. He is strictly a boundary guy. Role Ingram is playing requires being a good tackler which Elam is not. Quote
elroy16 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Elam reminds me of Gilmore where he looks a bit out of control half the time. That Benford article is crazy. I'm always in awe over these guys that get out of situations like that. I know my dumbass would have been on the corner chasing quick cash and not working my ass off to get out. This secondary is so fun. Ingram and Lewis thriving off the bench, Benford and Douglas shutting down the outside, and Hamlin and Rapp steady in the backend. Sal C talked at length about guys like Lewis, Ingram, and Hamlin being in the system so long, thanks in part such great coaching stability, and thriving because they don't have to think out there. They know exactly what to do and it allows them to mix up and disguise coverages so well. Cover 1's film breakdown showed the backend running basic cover 2 or 3, but the way they rotated post snap it creates confusion and allows them to lock down the backend. I'm loving the direction of this team. Props to McDermott and Beane for turning the page and truly doing a good job of making decisions to win now and in the future. 1 Quote
Captain Caveman Posted September 20 Posted September 20 21 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Big profile of Benford in The Athletic today. He certainly grew up in challenging circumstances (West Baltimore, setting of The Wire): https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5699837/2024/09/19/christian-benford-bills-face-tattoo/ Just bumping this because I hope everyone here reads it. A great article about what seems like a terrific young man. 1 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) What a stud. A random sixth rounder from Villanova of all places is locking down Hill, Harrison and Waddle. Hope we give him a good deal. Given what we gave up for him in relation to what we received, I’m comfortable saying he’s the best pick of the Beane tenure. Edited September 20 by Roundybout Quote
Yobogoya! Posted September 20 Posted September 20 I mean Josh Allen kind of stands in the way of that… by a wide, wide margin 1 1 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Idk Josh Allen is kinda a thing But as a value pick? I agree Benford is incredible. High level starting CB from a day 3 pick doesn't happen often but Beane does it regularly 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted September 20 Posted September 20 2 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: I mean Josh Allen kind of stands in the way of that… by a wide, wide margin Im thinking value pick here. Bang for the buck. Quote
Yobogoya! Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Just now, Roundybout said: Im thinking value pick here. Bang for the buck. Even taking into account value, Benford could turn into a generational, all pro, hall of fame CB and STILL couldn’t touch the value of the Josh Allen pick. Because a generational talent at QB makes you a contender every year, regardless of anything else. A generational CB can’t even begin to compare to that. 2 2 1 Quote
DaggersEOD Posted September 20 Posted September 20 I think at this point, all conversations include an implied “…besides / excluding Josh Allen…” So with that assumption, yeah he’s been a huge surprise and has produced at a high level with very little invested. As a 6th rounder, he beat out a 1st rounder in his same class at his position to get on the field. And once there, showed he belong. Great pick for sure. Quote
wppete Posted September 20 Posted September 20 1. Josh Allen 2. Matt Milano 3. Taron Johnson 4. Christian Benford Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 20 Posted September 20 7 minutes ago, wppete said: 1. Josh Allen 2. Matt Milano 3. Taron Johnson 4. Christian Benford Milano wasn't Beane. Benford has been lights out so far this year. 14 minutes ago, Roundybout said: What a stud. A random sixth rounder from Villanova of all places is locking down Hill, Harrison and Waddle. Hope we give him a good deal. Given what we gave up for him in relation to what we received, I’m comfortable saying he’s the best pick of the Beane tenure. He has been our best player not name Josh Allen through 2 weeks of this season. Quote
MJS Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Benford has been great. Taron Johnson was another excellent pick. And yeah... Josh Allen. We'll see how Shakir does this year, but he is looking to be another good value pick. 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 20 Posted September 20 I’m happy he’s better than we expected but chill out lol He’s probably trending towards top 10 Beane but let’s keep it on the rails here 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’m happy he’s better than we expected but chill out lol He’s probably trending towards top 10 Beane but let’s keep it on the rails here Im saying consider where we got him in exchange for what we’re getting. Guy is arguably CB1b. To me, that makes him Beane’s best pick. 1 Quote
Conlan58 Posted September 20 Posted September 20 But have you seen how good Zach Moss has been since leaving Buffalo? Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Beane/McD have drafted really well. That (including Allen) is the main reason why "the process" has worked, and continues to work. Remember, the process was about building a perennial contender, not a team with a short window of opportunity followed by another rebuild. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) he doesnt even crack the top 5 imo Edited September 20 by GoBills808 i take that back he's either 4th or 5th Quote
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