More Impressive 2-0 Start: Bills or Chiefs?

[Warriorspikes51]

KC was / is expected to win basically every game and they get assists from lucky breaks and refs
 

BUF was expected to struggle this season, at least to a degree. 

 

Many thought we'd lose to AZ.  I thought we'd be crushed by Miami's WR's 

[L Ron Burgundy]

Bills, many thought we were doing a mini rebuild or retool.

 

Vikings is better than both.  LEGIT coaching there. 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, L Ron Burgundy said:

Bills, many thought we were doing a mini rebuild or retool.

 

Vikings is better than both.  LEGIT coaching there. 

 

 

Vikings and Saints are the early shockers for sure 

[Billsatlastin2018]

In order…

 

1) Minnesnowta, Steelers & N.O. … easily FAR more impressive!

 

Bills, Chiefs, Chargers… meh… supposed to be VG or the Best.

[nedboy7]

I thought we weren't impressed with regular season wins.  I think the Broncos and Panthers are just as impressive. 

Legit coaching in Minn?  Did they win the SB?   Get out of here!!

 

Edited September 16 by nedboy7

[Big Turk]

I don't care about the start, I care about the finish

[TheFunPolice]

Saints are the biggest surprise to me. They aren't just 2-0, they demolished both teams they have faced. Winning big in Dallas without it even being a playoff game? 

 

That is huge!

[Doc Brown]

41 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

it's irrelevant. This is all just pre-season.

Always the eternal optimist.

[BullBuchanan]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Always the eternal optimist.

Why would anyone want to be an optimist? The entire concept is based on blind faith that things will magically work out even if you're not doing anything to address it.

I'm a realist. When there is cause for me to be excited, I will be.

[L Ron Burgundy]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I thought we weren't impressed with regular season wins.  I think the Broncos and Panthers are just as impressive. 

Legit coaching in Minn?  Did they win the SB?   Get out of here!!

 

Sam Darnold looks like Tom Brady through 2 weeks damm right!  

[Simon]

49 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

it's irrelevant. This is all just pre-season.

 

Until they lose one.

Then you'll be here to tell us all how revealing it is. 

[Don Otreply]

These early season games are more to stack wins for the future playoff seedings, yes we are scoring more and allowing less scoring than other teams, all good signs, but it’s early yet, gotta keep stacking wins, 👍

[L Ron Burgundy]

16 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Vikings and Saints are the early shockers for sure 

I should have added NO.  For sure they look look great so far.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Why would anyone want to be an optimist? The entire concept is based on blind faith that things will magically work out even if you're not doing anything to address it.

I'm a realist. When there is cause for me to be excited, I will be.

After the Broncos loss you said there was a 0% chance the Bills would make the playoffs.  That's a pessimist.  Not a realist.

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Until they lose one.

Then you'll be here to tell us all how revealing it is. 

I will if it is. The expectation is that they should win 11+ games. Sorry if I'm not excited when they beat bad teams in September.

[Don Otreply]

11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I will if it is. The expectation is that they should win 11+ games. Sorry if I'm not excited when they beat bad teams in September.

You should be happy they are winning, but being grumpy about winning is so awesome…, lol, 

 

nuthin but luv, but lighten up dude, it’s a game, 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Vikings being 2-0 upsets me, we need that early 2nd round pick and they are ruining it!!!!!!

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

The way Baltimore and Arizona looked yesterday I'd give the edge to the Bills.  We seem to be obsessed with the Chiefs though.

If gonna be the best you gotta beat the best.

Just now, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Vikings being 2-0 upsets me, we need that early 2nd round pick and they are ruining it!!!!!!

How soon before Darnold sees ghosts or gets hurt?

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

After the Broncos loss you said there was a 0% chance the Bills would make the playoffs.  That's a pessimist.  Not a realist.

Just because I was wrong doesn't make me a pessimist.

My underlying thesis is that under this regime, we are not a team designed to win in big moments under tough conditions. In order to make the playoffs last year, we needed to win out after losing to Denver. I figured that would be all but impossible given how poorly prepared the team was. In the weeks that followed they looked downright awful playing against Easton Stick and Bailey Zappe nearly losing both games. I watched them almost throw away the Tampa game, Fall to the NYG level and win a war of attrition, get panted by the Jaguars, etc.

I was wrong that they wouldn't make the playoffs. 100% They were still a severely flawed team that wasn't built to win a championship and they didn't.

 

That's why this is all pre-season. We could go 17-0 and I won't be much more excited than if they go 11-6. The only thing that matters to me is, are they a legitimate threat to win a Super Bowl? For me, based on the team personnel, coaching staff, and front office I can't find any way that doesn't involve injuries to opposing teams or massive upsets, in games we aren't a part of, to rationally think the answer is yes so far. That's been my opinion for most of the last 30 years with some exceptions (99,08,20,21). It's not some Eeyore, woe is me opinion. It's based entirely on their decisions and performance.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Vikings being 2-0 upsets me, we need that early 2nd round pick and they are ruining it!!!!!!

and they're not getting Hockensen back for a minute - when they do it'll be really important.