Josh 4 straight games no int’s.

[BuffaloBill]

6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The league should be on notice because JOSH ALLEN HAS GOTTEN BETTER.  His body looks right but more important he is thinking the game and winning pre-snap.  This is a HUGE development.  

we’re worried about your fascination with Josh’s body. 

[nedboy7]

Call me when he actually wins a SB.  Right haters? 

[AlfaBill]

10 hours ago, DJB said:

Now you’ve done it. 

I thought the exact same thing! Jinx!!

[Mr. WEO]

He isn’t focused 

[27yankees]

11 hours ago, DJB said:

Now you’ve done it. 

Yep, he went there.

[Matt_In_NH]

Ya’ll knock on some wood ok?

[Don Otreply]

13 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Two playoff games and the first two this year.   His best is five straight.  Brady gives him less risky throws and the points and touchdowns are still there.  Hope he keeps it going and has a low turnover year.  

The first thing you need to know about throwing interceptions, is you don’t talk about throwing interceptions…,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited September 16 by Don Otreply

[Process]

Since the start of 2023

 

Mahomes 

TDs 30

INTs 17

 

Allen

TDs 49

INTs 18

 

[78thealltimegreat]

The Eagles DB said it best when they played Josh last year if you go back to pass 40 times a game that’s 40 chances to intercept you.
When you only have to go back to pass 25 times a game it’s very hard to play a QB at Allen’s level in a game. 
In other words if you are pass first team this comes with the territory with any QB. 

[Thurman#1]

15 hours ago, finn said:

The narrative that stresses Allen's turnovers and downplays (or more usually ignores completely) his production is beyond absurd. In a few games, he'll have more touchdowns in his first seven seasons than any player in history, followed eventually by the most TDs in history, period. Yet all we hear is "Josh Allen, the turnover machines." He had six more turnovers than Mahomes last year and SEVENTEEN more touchdowns! 

 

Has anyone heard that rather important fact mentioned by even a single commentator, at any point at any time? 

 

 

Please.

 

Virtually nobody ignores completely or even downplays his production. Maybe a couple dozen guys in dusty internet corners.

 

And it's great that Allen has all those TDs, if Allen wasn't getting those running TDs, they'd be handoffs instead and many would still be touchdowns. 

 

As great and productive as he is, having too many turnovers hurts. It just does. Don't spin and try to ignore it. It's a factor that needs to be considered. It hurts the team. All factors need to be considered. Including the TOs.

 

It's a good sign that he has fewer INTs this year so far this year. Shows they're taking the pressure off him. He doesn't feel he has to win the game himself. Small sample size concerns, though.

 

He's terrific. Second-best in the league, IMO. But that doesn't mean that being one of the highest in the league in turnovers doesn't hurt his team. It does.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 16 by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

The first thing you need to know about throwing interceptions, is you don’t talk about throwing interceptions…,

 

 

 

Heh heh heh. Nice!

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The Eagles DB said it best when they played Josh last year if you go back to pass 40 times a game that’s 40 chances to intercept you.
When you only have to go back to pass 25 times a game it’s very hard to play a QB at Allen’s level in a game. 
In other words if you are pass first team this comes with the territory with any QB. 

 

 

Interceptions come with the territory.

 

A higher percentage of INTs does not. Josh's INT percentage was one of the highest in the league and has been for a while.

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Since the start of 2023

 

Mahomes 

TDs 30

INTs 17

 

Allen

TDs 49

INTs 18

 

 

 

Mahomes had his worst year in a long time last year.

 

2021 - 2023

 

Mahomes

 

Passing TDs 105

INTs 39

Turnovers 58

Team Rushing TDs  16 plus 18 plus 9 equals  47

 

Allen

 

Passing TDs 103

INTs 47

Turnovers 79

Team Rushing TDs  20 plus 15 plus 22 equals 57

 

 

[78thealltimegreat]

25 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Interceptions come with the territory.

 

A higher percentage of INTs does not. Josh's INT percentage was one of the highest in the league and has been for a while.

And one of the lowest in the history of the nfl playoffs. 

[Thurman#1]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

And one of the lowest in the history of the nfl playoffs. 

 

 

Relatively low sample size, with 378 playoff passes thrown. But I'll take it if it's a thing.

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Relatively low sample size, with 378 playoff passes thrown. But I'll take it if it's a thing.

As you should the bigger the game the better he plays. He just doesn’t play defensive end, safety, wr, or kicker 

[Thurman#1]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

As you should the bigger the game the better he plays. He just doesn’t play defensive end, safety, wr, or kicker 

 

 

As a tendency, yeah. Always, no. He's had a few big games where he didn't step up as well. 

 

But it's questionable whether over his career he'll throw so many fewer playoff INTs than season INTs relatively. Again, is it a thing or not? IMO hard to tell.

 

He doesn't play DE .... not sure what you're getting at there, but it's certainly hard to argue.

[78thealltimegreat]

4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

As a tendency, yeah. Always, no. He's had a few big games where he didn't step up as well. 

 

But it's questionable whether over his career he'll throw so many fewer playoff INTs than season INTs relatively. Again, is it a thing or not? IMO hard to tell.

 

He doesn't play DE .... not sure what you're getting at there, but it's certainly hard to argue.

Haters gonna hate 

[SinceThe70s]

 

This is a clear indication that Josh has become a game manager.

 

Good times.

[dma0034]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Mahomes had his worst year in a long time last year.

 

2021 - 2023

 

Mahomes

 

Passing TDs 105

INTs 39

Turnovers 58

Team Rushing TDs  16 plus 18 plus 9 equals  47

 

Allen

 

Passing TDs 103

INTs 47

Turnovers 79

Team Rushing TDs  20 plus 15 plus 22 equals 57

 

 

 

Stupid to pick and choose. Should we discount Mahomes passes that are behind the line of scrimmage because they are pretty much runs? Because he throws a lot of screen passes. 

Also you mentioned earlier that if the Bills handed off the ball instead of Allen running they'd still be TD.... that's simply not true. How many TDs last year were outside the 2 yard line? the 5 yard line? Would a handoff be a TD in the playoff game against the Steelers? He had 6 TDs from inside the 2 (4 were the Tush Pushes).