Tua’s Broken Dome (now being placed on IR-out at least 4 games)

[julian]

He’s a grown man who’s risking his health to set up his family and their families for generations to come. Men everyday risk their health and lives to take care of their families for much much less.

 

 If it were my son I’d be begging him to stop playing, but men are going to take risks.

[steven50]

If I was a Doctor I would be pretty leery of saying he should/could play again.

 

If he does play and damages his brain stem permanently that could end that Doctors career and open him up for all kind of legal action from the family. We are not talking about a broken bone here, a lot of that brain stuff is pretty open to opinion particularly when the fencing response is involved..

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, julian said:

He’s a grown man who’s risking his health to set up his family and their families for generations to come. Men everyday risk their health and lives to take care of their families for much much less.

 

 If it were my son I’d be begging him to stop playing, but men are going to take risks.

 

But what happens if he suffers a life-altering final concussion on national television? What if the next one kills him or makes him a vegetable?

 

Are fans ready for what comes next when the NFL goes scorched earth changing all the rules & turning football into something unrecognizable from the current product? With all the heat they'd face for having that happen to an athlete we all KNEW had severe concussion risks, I believe they'd go all out trying to prove they'll never allow something like that to happen again.

 

I don't want the league to change more than it already has. Allowing Tua to keep playing risks more than just his own health imo.

[Figster]

On 9/14/2024 at 10:53 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Absurd--they can't force a grown man to retire.  He is well aware of the risks he incurs by playing.  

 

Where were you threads screaming for the Bills to force Morse to retire after countless concussions.  Look at Micah Hyde--had 2 seasons in a row with serious neck injury, had a cervical fusion and needs another....yet many here are craving to put his safety and health aside and join the Bills for a playoff run!

 

The Dolphin hate I get...butthis as the justification for your hate?  Nah...seems drummed up.  Everyone so concerned for a divisional rival QB's health!

 

come on...

 

 

You can force a grown man to wear the Guardian cap If your McDaniel.

 

 

[Chandler#81]

13 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Wow! Somehow I was completely unaware of that. 

Butkus stood over the fallen Lion and told him to get the F up, thinking he was BSing. He was dead.

[RunTheBall]

6 hours ago, steven50 said:

If I was a Doctor I would be pretty leery of saying he should/could play again.

 

If he does play and damages his brain stem permanently that could end that Doctors career and open him up for all kind of legal action from the family. We are not talking about a broken bone here, a lot of that brain stuff is pretty open to opinion particularly when the fencing response is involved..

 

Agreed but no doc is going to tell him there isn’t risk of permanent brain damage down the line if he keeps playing. He should get several opinions from neurologic experts in concussions and like many here have said, make his own decision. I personally feel he should play the game of saying he wants to come back until get can suck as much of that guaranteed money out of Miami that he can. He earned that contract (whether I think he’s worth it or not). If he flat out retires I think he has to give a chunk of that back.

 

I don’t think he should play another down again but that’s easy for me to say. I hope he takes Miami for all cash he can and then enjoys the rest of his life with his family.

 

[Sweats]

6 hours ago, steven50 said:

If I was a Doctor I would be pretty leery of saying he should/could play again.

 

If he does play and damages his brain stem permanently that could end that Doctors career and open him up for all kind of legal action from the family. We are not talking about a broken bone here, a lot of that brain stuff is pretty open to opinion particularly when the fencing response is involved..

 

 

 

 

Any doctor worth their sauce would get Tua to sign an agreement to not be held responsible for any outcome, if Tua should decide to keep playing.

[Savage]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

Any doctor worth their sauce would get Tua to sign an agreement to not be held responsible for any outcome, if Tua should decide to keep playing.

Any doctor worth his salt would tell him to walk, no, run away, and live a normal, healthy life, whatever that may be at this point.

 

not a team doctor, or NFL doctor either.

 

just a regular persons doctor.

 

it’s a “ no brainer”.

 

pardon the pun.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Sad part about the injury is he could’ve easily prevented it.

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

29 minutes ago, Savage said:

Any doctor worth his salt would tell him to walk, no, run away, and live a normal, healthy life, whatever that may be at this point.

 

not a team doctor, or NFL doctor either.

 

just a regular persons doctor.

 

it’s a “ no brainer”.

 

pardon the pun.

 

As I said before, as a Crimson Tide fan, Tua is one of my favorite non-Bill players, and perhaps one of the nicest people in sports by all accounts. That said, I never want to see him play another down. He probably should have retired before this incident. 

 

Still, I have no sympathy for the Dolphins and I'd love to see Jaylen Waddle escape from Miami, perhaps to Buffalo for a few high  draft choices. I can dream, can't I?

Edited September 16 by Bill from NYC

[Savage]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

As I said before, as a Crimson Tide fan, Tua is one of my favorite non-Bill players, and perhaps one of the nicest people in sports by all accounts. That said, I never want to see him play another down. He probably should have retired before this incident. 

 

That said I have no sympathy for the Dolphins and I'd love to see Jaylen Waddle escape from Miami, perhaps to Buffalo for a few high  draft choices. I can dream, can't I?

Why don’t these guys have their own doctors, with no vested interests, other than that of their patient?

 

I’ve had the same doctor since I was a kid, so over 45 years now, and he doesn’t mince his words when we speak.

 

I follow his recommendations all the time, because it is what’s best for me.

 

if I was in Tua’s predicament, I know what he’d say, and I’d know he was right because he is looking out for me.

 

[RkFast]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Sad part about the injury is he could’ve easily prevented it.

 

 

 

This is the part that is being missed big time. The news today is that hes going to see a "concussion specialist." How about going to a "dont use your head as a battering ram specialist???" 

 

Concussions...any injury...can happen on the freakish of plays, sure. But part of the equasion has to be the athlete controlling what s/he can to avoid these things from happening in the first place. That fact seems to be getting glossed over.

[Big Turk]

Fins fans back to being delusional again.  Talking about how MVP Tua will be back from injury and tear things up.  How the hell do you go from watching what happened Thursday night to that in 3 or 4 days?  Hard to be an MVP when you are like the 4th best player on your own offense.

Edited September 16 by Big Turk

[Doc]

16 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I'm almost 50 and go back to watching games regularly since the mid 80s...can't say I ever remember seeing it...

Virtually the same here. I’ve never seen anyone posture after a concussion. 

[oldmanfan]

This would be a question more for the lawyers out there. but given the number and apparent intensity of the concussions Tua has had, is he legally competent to make a decision about whether to keep playing?

[machine gun kelly]

I’ve told the story before my son had 5 concussions all from lax, not football even though he was incredible at the game. He just loved lax.  After his 5th he asked me what to do and I asked him questions.  I wasn’t going to tell an adult son on a D1 scholarship what to do.  He came to the right conclusion and ended it.  I feel for him as he has chronic hx’s, amd problems sleeping.  
 

He’s making a mistake coming back.  He has over $100 mil.  He doesn’t need any more.

 

BTW- this has nothing to do with the Fish as we could beat them with Tua.  It’s about his health.

[BillsShredder83]

22 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

True.

And think about the impacts that have caused the concussions. Mitch Morse probably had several (too many, to be honest) caused by the slow-speed collisions of very large men who play on the line. Sadly we've seen this have big impacts later in life on guys like Mike Webster, but they're not the kind of obvious head trauma we're talking about here.

Tua had the type where the head rapidly - immediately - decelerates when hitting the ground or Hamlin's body. The kind that don't just cause some temporary grogginess that the player fights through in an ill-advised attempt to stay in the game, but the kind that clearly knock him cold.

The way I've heard it explained, tracks with evidence we've seen on being prone to concussions.

 

Basically their are spiderweb type fibers that hold your brain together - like a compression sock, and (I believe don't quote me on this specific point-->) attach from brain to skull.

 

Each impact shakes your brain a little, whether majorly or minor. Think of it like a fraying rope.

 

They alllll add up, and severe one's do the most damage. Allowing your brain to shift more easily than the last, more wiggle to allow your brain to smack sides, front and back of skull.

 

Most players who have multiple concussions show this play out. Always being prone to get them again more easily.

 

It explains why fighters "lose their chin" in boxing after brutal KOs. Countless boxers. Lafontaine. Lindros. Harvin. Etc etc. It can't repair broken fibers. Frayed one's maybe, with a lot of time.

 

Like a scab will. Put if you constantly pick at a scab it'll never heal or heal poorly. 

 

He's 26 i wish he'd retire. Likeable, handsome, Uber successful. Go fill up a house with kids somewhere tropical. Bare minimum he should take a full year off. You just can't escape the micro tears/impacts. But he won't unfortunately. 

[RiotAct]

Dolphins acquire Pro Bowl QB Tyler Huntley…

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-injury-dolphins-adding-former-pro-bowl-qb-in-wake-of-starters-latest-concussion-per-report/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0T5hYoNXbSGYdx4p9mUq4blUuKyY1yBAh5ceXpcUHW7NYyY8Sx0gBf4K0_aem_MKZScsN-eOnvTWiTyA0p4w

[Lost]

3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

The way I've heard it explained, tracks with evidence we've seen on being prone to concussions.

 

Basically their are spiderweb type fibers that hold your brain together - like a compression sock, and (I believe don't quote me on this specific point-->) attach from brain to skull.

 

Each impact shakes your brain a little, whether majorly or minor. Think of it like a fraying rope.

 

They alllll add up, and severe one's do the most damage. Allowing your brain to shift more easily than the last, more wiggle to allow your brain to smack sides, front and back of skull.

 

Most players who have multiple concussions show this play out. Always being prone to get them again more easily.

 

It explains why fighters "lose their chin" in boxing after brutal KOs. Countless boxers. Lafontaine. Lindros. Harvin. Etc etc. It can't repair broken fibers. Frayed one's maybe, with a lot of time.

 

Like a scab will. Put if you constantly pick at a scab it'll never heal or heal poorly. 

 

He's 26 i wish he'd retire. Likeable, handsome, Uber successful. Go fill up a house with kids somewhere tropical. Bare minimum he should take a full year off. You just can't escape the micro tears/impacts. But he won't unfortunately. 

 

 

Inject some foam insulation around his brain...problem solved.   

 

 

[Saxum]

20 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

Dolphins acquire Pro Bowl QB Tyler Huntley…

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tua-tagovailoa-injury-dolphins-adding-former-pro-bowl-qb-in-wake-of-starters-latest-concussion-per-report/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0T5hYoNXbSGYdx4p9mUq4blUuKyY1yBAh5ceXpcUHW7NYyY8Sx0gBf4K0_aem_MKZScsN-eOnvTWiTyA0p4w

 

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Huntley famously made the Pro Bowl after the 2022 season despite playing in just six games for the Ravens as an injury fill-in for Lamar Jackson. Only four of those were starts, with Huntley playing some middling football for Baltimore, although he did manage to keep their playoff hopes afloat and actually help the Ravens sneak into the postseason. 

 

He was 4th alternate after everyone else decided not to attend.

Pro Bowl title has as much meaning as MVP does and no coincidence that he was backup to Jackson with same extras.