Tua’s Broken Dome (now being placed on IR-out at least 4 games)

[EmotionallyUnstable]

28 minutes ago, gordong said:

lets see how many games he lasts this time, 3 is my guess

Considering we play whem week 9, my guess is 2

[JohnNord]

27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Really not looking forward to watching this dude die on the field

Same… how many times does this have to happen?

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

and everyone watching is going to feel real great about this....oh that's right it's entertainment so if him playing with his potential life destroying easily occurring brain injury makes us all uncomfortable maybe don't.

[HansLanda]

2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Same… how many times does this have to happen?

 

There is no limit. It's the player's choice, and if approved by a neurologist the NFL isn't going to say no. 

[Doc]

Miami games should be the national game...

[K-9]

Seems we’ve had this same discussion about helmets and how they can mitigate concussions many times here over the years. Bottom line is that until a device is invented that can prevent the brain from sloshing around and smashing into the side of the skull then helmets, and whatever extra padding you wish to add to them, will continue to offer very little protection. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

Miami games should be the national game...

 

Nope Fox has the doubleheader that week.  Good chance it will be the main "regional" 1:00 game with Nance and Romo on the call.

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Seems we’ve had this same discussion about helmets and how they can mitigate concussions many times here over the years. Bottom line is that until a device is invented that can prevent the brain from sloshing around and smashing into the side of the skull then helmets, and whatever extra padding you wish to add to them, will continue to offer very little protection. 

 

But how do we get it inside the human skull...

16 minutes ago, Doc said:

Miami games should be the national game...

We just need to modify the score board a little.

 

[RiotAct]

40 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Considering we play whem week 9, my guess is 2

The Bills’ defense when prepping for the game in a couple weeks:

 

[nedboy7]

You don’t have to have a concussion in order to have life long issues playing in the NFL. Or die early. Or have neurological issues.  If Tua wants to play he can play.  I don’t get this narrative about how he shouldn’t be allowed.  Or that people are grossed out.  Or the NFL is complicit in his demise. The entire concept of the NFL is gross. It’s up to him and his family.  

[DrDawkinstein]

38 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Same… how many times does this have to happen?

 

Likely, once more. ☠️

[BeastMaster]

If this dude wants to chance not being able to live with a brain that can allow him to have a good life and be the best father/husband he can be, then so be it.

 

 

[Saxum]

37 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Seems we’ve had this same discussion about helmets and how they can mitigate concussions many times here over the years. Bottom line is that until a device is invented that can prevent the brain from sloshing around and smashing into the side of the skull then helmets, and whatever extra padding you wish to add to them, will continue to offer very little protection. 

 

Bills had a player Mark Kelso's who had repeated problems with concussions and did not have one after getting "Giant Helmet".

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/7/3/3134086/nfl-concussion-litigation-mark-kelso-buffalo-bills

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You don’t have to have a concussion in order to have life long issues playing in the NFL. Or die early. Or have neurological issues.  If Tua wants to play he can play.  I don’t get this narrative about how he shouldn’t be allowed.  Or that people are grossed out.  Or the NFL is complicit in his demise. The entire concept of the NFL is gross. It’s up to him and his family.  

 

It is his choice right now.  He (and the whole football world) knows what could happen.

 

I will bring up (once again) what bugs me some.  How does Tua's opponents handle this?

Nobody wants to be the guy to give him another concussion, but these defenders have a job to do.

Every defense wants to "rough up" the opposing QB and get him worried about throwing the ball.

Will they be treated differently because of Tua's situation?

 

How much more extra "protection" will the officials give him?

 

One can even see that this puts and added level of worry to the Miami Dolphins OL.

None of them want to be the guy to miss a block and get Tua's bell rung again.

 

It is for sure Tua's decision, but it affects a lot of other people too.

[Rocky Landing]

I've been under the assumption that there have been injury settlement negotiations going on behind the scenes. It feels like Tua and the Fish are playing a game of chicken. If Tua's is not allowed to play because of his injury, he gets paid. If he quits because of his injury, he doesn't. So far, neither side is flinching, and the NFL has declined to get involved (which is tantamount to siding with the Dolphins).

 

And still, Grier, and the Dolphins have done nothing to shore up their porous O-line, and give Tua some modicum of protection. Instead, they will continue with their get-the-ball-out-of-your-hands-as-fast-as-humaly-possible offensive scheme. Maybe they're hoping that opposing defenses will be easy on him, rather than take the risk of killing someone on the field?

[Saxum]

22 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I've been under the assumption that there have been injury settlement negotiations going on behind the scenes. It feels like Tua and the Fish are playing a game of chicken. If Tua's is not allowed to play because of his injury, he gets paid. If he quits because of his injury, he doesn't. So far, neither side is flinching, and the NFL has declined to get involved (which is tantamount to siding with the Dolphins).

 

And still, Grier, and the Dolphins have done nothing to shore up their porous O-line, and give Tua some modicum of protection. Instead, they will continue with their get-the-ball-out-of-your-hands-as-fast-as-humaly-possible offensive scheme. Maybe they're hoping that opposing defenses will be easy on him, rather than take the risk of killing someone on the field?

 

NFL logically does not want to set a precedent which would allow players to collect contacts for quitting for any reason for there already are too many players which have done that.  Barry Sanders played chicken-and-egg game with Lions not paying back signing bonus saying he might come out of retirement (which he never did) and each year paying back portion of signing bonus while earning money on money not paid back.

 

NFL could create an exception allowing Tua to keep guarantee but it will not count against cap and that would set ANOTHER precedent.

 

NFLPA could offer to help Tua out post paying back money retiring on his own but NFLPA would hate doing that since they only want to get money (Is NFLPA a non-profit like NFL?).

 

There is no good solution and problems will get worse as players QBs especially get higher and higher salaries with more and more (or all 😝) contracts.

[sleeby]

"

But how do we get it inside the human skull..."

 

through the ears, nose and a small hole drilled into top of skull cap, add non expanding Great Stuff on all sides and Bob's yer uncle.

I'm on the fence on this.  Was against his choice but when thinking about car crashes, ladder falls, boxers being KOd and worse, MMA, race car crashes, etc, who am I to judge what he wants to do.

 

So. . .which Bills defensive player will get their turn in the negative media when it happens?

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

But how do we get it inside the human skull...

We just need to modify the score board a little.

 

Someone with the skills needs to make gif of that counting down with Tua's name. 

 

Believe in the ball!  Throw yourself!

[Fleezoid]

I think he'll be fine.  The ball will be out of his hands in 1.2 seconds every play. That short passing game will not be sustainable. Especially if smart teams play press man almost exclusively. 

[HansLanda]

1 minute ago, Fleezoid said:

I think he'll be fine.  The ball will be out of his hands in 1.2 seconds every play. That short passing game will not be sustainable. Especially if smart teams play press man almost exclusively. 

 

everyone be prepared for roughing the passer calls if anyone breathes on him. Just saying.