RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, uticaclub said: We’ll see how the season plays out. They should go if the roster looks weak outside of Josh, and we lose in the Divisional Round again. I am not giving McD a lifetime pass for going 9-7 in 2017 or Beane for picking Josh. We see how Josh plays; he isn’t going to play into his late 30s, so we need to win now. I’m hoping we win the Super Bowl and everyone keeps their job. Consistency in ownership, GM and HC is an ideal to build a longstanding winning NFL team. Fortunately the Pegulas have more patience than the fan base. Beane/McD are and shouldn't go anywhere unless this a teams turns into a disaster. This year is a reset year after fixing the salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, yall said: That and three people completely whiffing on what should have been a tackle. 💯 41 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Gilliam, Davis, and Elam. Davis is a new rookie, use that excuse, Elam and Gilliam, honestly there are no excuses, now both veterans. If they cant tackle shouldn't be on special teams. No excuse for Davis' pitiful attempt at a soft shoulder check instead of going in for a real tackle, other than bad coaching. Like I've said elsewhere, we are an undisciplined, poorly-coached team that happens to have a Josh Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Snowbowl said: Special teams cost us the Jets and Broncos games last year. Now nearly the Cards game. They’ve been consistently bad under Smiley. He needs to go. I imagine change during the season would be super tough though. Should’ve fired him at the end of the season last year Tell us your qualifications to make that recommendation. Were you even a waterboy on a women football team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbowl Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Punching Bag said: Tell us your qualifications to make that recommendation. Were you even a waterboy on a women football team? Typical BS comment. I’ve coached soccer and hold national licenses. I also played lacrosse in college. You? I know poor coaching when I see it. Lots of excuses for him here. Bottom line is our special teams have given up big plays consistently since he took over. We used to to have the best STs in the league. Why settle for mediocre ones because of poor coaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Special Teams had another hiccup with the KO return Sunday. It seems to me this does happen to the Bills more often than it should. I get the feeling that at times the ST try to get a little cute in their play calling and it does bite them in the a$$ too often. I'd like them just to play the safer odds and avoid the negative plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Three guys had the chance to tackle him and missed... That's not on the coordinator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbowl Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Three guys had the chance to tackle him and missed... That's not on the coordinator. Hell yes it is. His job to make sure they do know how. Excuses, excuses for Smiley. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Three guys had the chance to tackle him and missed... That's not on the coordinator. When a bunch of guys are making the same mistake, that is coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Snowbowl said: Hell yes it is. His job to make sure they do know how. Excuses, excuses for Smiley. No, his job is to put them in a place to succeed. The players have to execute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: When a bunch of guys are making the same mistake, that is coaching. I find it hard to believe that no coaches have talked to these players on how to tackle. It's a fundamental part of football and these guys have been doing it since peewee. Players have to take the brunt of the responsibility on errors like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 39 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Consistency in ownership, GM and HC is an ideal to build a longstanding winning NFL team. Fortunately the Pegulas have more patience than the fan base. Beane/McD are and shouldn't go anywhere unless this a teams turns into a disaster. This year is a reset year after fixing the salary cap. But who put them in this salary cap situation without a Super Bowl appearance to begin with? Consistency in underachieving isn’t great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I find it hard to believe that no coaches have talked to these players on how to tackle. It's a fundamental part of football and these guys have been doing it since peewee. Players have to take the brunt of the responsibility on errors like this. It's an issue on Special Teams and one that has plagued our defense for years. These players all learned technique since high school and made it all the way through college ball. Yes, they know how to tackle. But they arent. There is something being missed by the coaches. And at the very least it is on the coaches to fix, whether through different motivation or punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I find it hard to believe that no coaches have talked to these players on how to tackle. It's a fundamental part of football and these guys have been doing it since peewee. Players have to take the brunt of the responsibility on errors like this. yeah, I have to agree with this. Lets be realistic. Franchise went "all in" with the Von Miller and other free agents, no one was whining about that when it happened but when it fails, head must roll. To wih a championship a la the Rams from a few years ago, it was worth the shot. Frankly if we get out of this with only one "bad" year, that is a masterful job of GM/HC or lucky. Edited September 11 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: When a bunch of guys are making the same mistake, that is coaching. I think it’s a failure in leadership. That falls on the only coach who’s been here for the entire Allen era, IMO. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Gugny said: I think it’s a failure in leadership. That falls on the only coach who’s been here for the entire Allen era, IMO. It's been an issue through his entire tenure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 14 minutes ago, uticaclub said: But who put them in this salary cap situation without a Super Bowl appearance to begin with? Consistency in underachieving isn’t great. Then go back to hiring and firing the HC and GM every three years if you dont get a Lombardi.. Let Buffalo slip back into a disaster of a franchise no one want to play for unless they are overpaid (Marrio Willaims) or are drafted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I would not be surprised if Smiley is on the hot seat. I don't think McDermott would make a change during the season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think it’s a failure in leadership. That falls on the only coach who’s been here for the entire Allen era, IMO. I agree, and I said he should have been fired the next day after 13 seconds. But unfortunately Terry likes him so we are stuck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 58 minutes ago, MJS said: Three guys had the chance to tackle him and missed... That's not on the coordinator. So when players play poorly, the coaches are automatically immune from criticism or scrutiny....Got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: He should be fired due to previous performances. Maybe. Bass was shaky last year, and Martin kept punting down the middle. Not quite ready to pull the trigger on Smiley just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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